<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><font face="verdana, sans-serif"><b>From today's call</b></font></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><font face="verdana, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><font face="verdana, sans-serif">Additional comments from Sanket: A couple of features that GitHub discussions have that make them a better choice are (1) the ability to <a href="https://help.github.com/en/articles/watching-and-unwatching-team-discussions" style="">watch/unwatch teams</a>, <a href="https://help.github.com/en/articles/subscribing-to-and-unsubscribing-from-notifications" style="">subscribe/unsubscribe to/from discussions</a> and <a href="https://help.github.com/en/articles/pinning-a-team-discussion" style="">pin/unpin discussions</a> and (2) it allows markdown so we get checklists, emojis, tables, etc. which greatly improve readability.</font></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><font face="verdana, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><font face="verdana, sans-serif">Additional comments from Jo and Cameron: <a href="https://developer.github.com/v3/teams/discussions/" style="">The GitHub discussions API</a> can be used to fetch discussions but we may need to store them in a place from time to time in a searchable format.</font></div><br class="gmail-Apple-interchange-newline"></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 6:29 AM Sanket Totewar <<a href="mailto:sanket@totewar.com">sanket@totewar.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Sorry guys for the delay in reply.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I have some interesting perspective from some peeps who've used Gmail lists and GitHub discussions.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Can't share their names but they have all used private repos (no public ones) and have had GitHub organizations with teams in them.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">P1: GitHub discussions can go too deep if your team is spread across the world so we started using them but moved to slack and then only added decisions as meeting notes in Confluence.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">P2: I've tried using them but didn't like the style as it does not feel real-time. So we have calls instead.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">P3: GitHub discussions might be great for open source projects but were not relevant to ours as we had private meetings.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">P4: Emails are the best as it is so easy to search through them but of course you need to know what you are searching for. Google does a great job here.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">P5: I've not seen any open source project use GitHub team discussions.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">P6: Love GitHub Discussions. They are very helpful for international teams.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">P7: GitHub discussions allow inline commenting and give easy access to links in GitHub PRs in addition to the comments inside PRs, they form a good package.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Aug 12, 2019 at 8:18 PM Cameron Shorter <<a href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com" target="_blank">cameron.shorter@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p>Hi Sanket, are you around and noticing emails? At our last
meeting, we identified setting up an email list as our number 2
priority.</p>
<p>Jo, you were also looking into this and had some ideas. How far
did you get before heading on leave last week?</p>
<p>How should we move forward?</p>
<p>Cheers, Cameron<br>
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<p>Hi Sanket, did your research into email list options identify
anything worth passing on?</p>
<p>Cheers, Cameron<br>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Sounds good. I have
meetings with my internal support teams that have used
Google Groups and a bunch of developers that have explored
GitHub discussions so I'll share their feedback in a few
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AM Jo Cook <<a href="mailto:jo.k.cook@gmail.com" target="_blank">jo.k.cook@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div>I've been doing a little more digging into GitHub
Discussions.</div>
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<div>Good:</div>
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<div>* hosted and free (at the moment)<br>
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<div>* you can align them with organisational teams, which
would mean we could have one list for website
discussion, another one for PSC etc. <br>
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<div>* definitely searchable, but it's a little early to
tell how manageable they are going to be with a large
number of messages. <br>
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<div>* not needing any additional logins- people helping
with the project will need a github login anyway so
we're not asking them to sign up to anything extra</div>
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<div>Bad things:</div>
<div>* There's also no explicit statement on archiving
them, potentially they will survive as long as the
organisation does. <br>
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<div>* They might transition to being a paid-for function
at some point</div>
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<div>I'm not wedded to them, but it appeals to my sense of
neatness to keep everything together :-)</div>
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<div>Jo<br>
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1:32 PM Cameron Shorter <<a href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com" target="_blank">cameron.shorter@gmail.com</a>>
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31/7/19 7:21 pm, Jo Cook wrote:<br>
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<li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:disc;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><font size="2"><span style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Discussions- currently using an osgeo mailing list, requirement is for hosted (let’s not maintain a server). Github discussions- not clear on archiving, google groups- probably OK but how long are things archived? Let’s discuss via email. ACTION: SANKET to do some research and start email thread discussing requirements.</span></font></p></li>
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<p><font size="2">Sanket, expanding on what I think
requirements are:</font></p>
<p><font size="2">* For long term sustainability it is
important to keep things as simple and low
maintenance as possible.</font></p>
<p><font size="2">* We want conversations archived and
searchable (by google is ok). Eg: </font><br>
<font size="2"><a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/seasonofdocs/2019-July/thread.html" target="_blank">https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/seasonofdocs/2019-July/thread.html</a></font></p>
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