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<p>Hi Swapnil, I'd be happy to have a chat today. If ok, I'll give a
call after I drop my son off at the airport ~ 8:30am. I'll send
you an SMS first to confirm you are free.<br>
</p>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2/1/20 10:04 pm, Swapnil Ogale
wrote:<br>
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<div class="gmail_default" style=""><font face="verdana,
sans-serif">Hi Cameron and Jo,</font></div>
<div class="gmail_default" style=""><font face="verdana,
sans-serif"><br>
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<div class="gmail_default" style=""><font face="verdana,
sans-serif">I started with the installation guide and am
still stuck.</font></div>
<div class="gmail_default" style=""><font face="verdana,
sans-serif">Can we have a quick call to discuss this? I am
referring to the OsGeo equivalent here (<a
href="https://live.osgeo.org/en/quickstart/virtualization_quickstart.html"
style="" moz-do-not-send="true">https://live.osgeo.org/en/quickstart/virtualization_quickstart.html</a>)
to relate it to these installation instructions (<a
href="https://geonetwork-opensource.org/manuals/3.8.x/en/maintainer-guide/installing/index.html"
style="" moz-do-not-send="true">https://geonetwork-opensource.org/manuals/3.8.x/en/maintainer-guide/installing/index.html</a>).
Am I on the right track?</font></div>
<div class="gmail_default" style=""><font face="verdana,
sans-serif"><br>
</font></div>
<div class="gmail_default" style=""><font face="verdana,
sans-serif">Until I get some clarity, I am not sure I can
proceed with this.</font></div>
<div class="gmail_default" style=""><font face="verdana,
sans-serif"><br>
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<div class="gmail_default" style=""><font face="verdana,
sans-serif">Meanwhile, I will skip to the next task (go
through Byron's spreadsheet and start classifying these
based on the 4 content types from the Divio blog).</font></div>
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sans-serif"><br>
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<div class="gmail_default" style=""><font face="verdana,
sans-serif">Does that sound ok?</font></div>
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sans-serif"><br>
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<div class="gmail_default" style=""><font face="verdana,
sans-serif">Swapnil</font></div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, 22 Dec 2019 at 09:56,
Cameron Shorter <<a href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">cameron.shorter@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
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<p>Hi Swapnil, looks good and would be fine to send out as
is.<br>
</p>
<p>A couple of minor suggestions which you can take or leave
as you see fit. </p>
<p>* You are working within a volunteer community where
people are gifting their time (or sometimes gifting their
employer's time). How the person spends their time is up
to the person - sometimes taking advice from others, but
at the end of the day, they drive their own agenda. I
suggest you think of how you spend your time on this
project in the same way. You make the final decision about
how you spend your time to maximise the benefit of the
project and the broader community. Heed advice from people
within the community about what will likely work, but at
the end of the day, you know your own capabilities better
than others, and will be able to judge how you can be most
impactful (and enjoy yourself in the process).</p>
<p>* With that in mind, the tone of your communication will
likely change slightly, so it doesn't sound like you are
writing a progress report to your boss.</p>
<p>Instead of:</p>
<p>- "In line with directions provided by Cameron and Byron,
I will do ..."</p>
<p>Your tone may change to:</p>
<p>- "After talking with Cameron and Byron, it sounds like
we need to do XXX. So I'm planning to work on ..."</p>
<p>(I've exaggerated a bit for effect). The revised
statement is more conversational, and provides an opening
for others in the community to add suggestions. (Note,
Cameron and Byron are not your boss, they are part of a
community, and you are doing your best to capture the best
ideas from this community.)<br>
</p>
<p>* A major risk factor for Open Source projects is having
someone come in, do something great, then leave and have
no one left to maintain the great contribution. Long term
sustainability is super-important and something that
should be considered with all your decisions. A key reason
why you are creating templates is so you can empower
others to write great docs, and continue to do so after
you have left. This should be mentioned and worked toward.<br>
</p>
<p>* For your doc tasks, I suggest adding "why" you plan to
do them. It should help get some buy in from the community
(which is important).</p>
<p>So, with all that in mind, I've inserted a few suggested
tweaks below.<br>
</p>
<div>On 21/12/19 11:23 pm, Swapnil Ogale wrote:<br>
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<div class="gmail_default"
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<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Just wanted
to run this past you before I email the whole list.</div>
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Hi all, <br>
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short email listing the discussions Cameron, Byron
and I had yesterday.</div>
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Unfortunately Jo and Paul couldn't make it, so we have
probably missed insights gained during recent doc hackdays,
but we came up with the following suggestions to get me
going over the next few weeks.<br>
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style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="background-color:transparent;color:rgb(0,0,0);white-space:pre-wrap">Documentation tasks (in order of priority)</span><br>
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<br>
<ol style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px">
<li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:lower-alpha;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.8;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Work on/Update Installation Guide for Windows</span></p></li>
<li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:lower-alpha;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.8;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Perform a content audit of existing content (Byron’s spreadsheet) and apply the Divio (4 doc types) against the content to identify doc types</span></p></li>
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<i><font face="verdana, sans-serif">... The aim here is to
see if we can logically split docs into Tutorials,
Howtos, Explanations, and References, which would them
make them easier to maintain.</font></i><br>
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<i><font face="verdana, sans-serif">The aim here is to make
it easier for developers, users, tech writers and me to
write good docs. There are some best practices getting
developed in TheGoodDocsProject which I'm hoping to
build upon.</font></i><br>
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id="gmail-m_1361808432617474100gmail-docs-internal-guid-907b7ef2-7fff-3db4-2189-2f79071db4c6"><font
face="verdana, sans-serif"><br>
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style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">When/how I plan to tackle this (Timelines)</span></p>
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<ol style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px">
<li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:lower-alpha;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">End of Dec - Draft of Windows installation guide</span></p></li>
<li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:lower-alpha;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Jan 1st week - Audit of existing content to match the 4 doc types.</span></p></li>
</ol>
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</span></font></div>
<div><font color="#000000"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">Thanks,</span></font></div>
<div><font color="#000000"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">Swapnil</span></font></div>
</font></span></div>
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<font face="verdana, sans-serif">Timelines look good.
Thanks, Cameron</font><br>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, 19 Dec 2019 at
08:04, Cameron Shorter <<a
href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">cameron.shorter@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi Jo,
<div>Hopefully you have a meeting invite from me
titled "Moved Geonetwork Google Season of Docs
meeting".</div>
<div>Timeslot:</div>
<div> <a
href="https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2019&month=12&day=19&hour=19&min=0&sec=0&p1=240&p2=264&p3=136&p4=16"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2019&month=12&day=19&hour=19&min=0&sec=0&p1=240&p2=264&p3=136&p4=16</a></div>
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<table
style="box-sizing:border-box;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:0px;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;border:1px
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style="box-sizing:border-box">
<th style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:5px
9px;text-align:left">Location</th>
<th style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:5px
9px;text-align:left;border-left:1px solid
rgb(204,204,204)">Local Time</th>
<th style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:5px
9px;text-align:left;border-left:1px solid
rgb(204,204,204)">Time Zone</th>
<th style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:5px
9px;text-align:left;border-left:1px solid
rgb(204,204,204)">UTC Offset</th>
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<tr
style="box-sizing:border-box;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">
<td
style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.4em;vertical-align:top;border:none"><a
href="https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/australia/sydney"
title="Current local time in Sydney"
style="box-sizing:border-box;background:transparent;color:rgb(85,107,181);text-decoration-line:none"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">Sydney</a> <span
style="box-sizing:border-box;font-size:12.6px">(Australia - New South
Wales)</span></td>
<td
style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.4em;vertical-align:top;border:none">Friday,
20 December 2019 at 6:00:00 am</td>
<td
style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.4em;vertical-align:top;border:none"><a
href="https://www.timeanddate.com/time/zones/aedt" title="Australian
Eastern Daylight Time"
style="box-sizing:border-box;background:transparent;color:rgb(85,107,181);text-decoration-line:none"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">AEDT</a></td>
<td
style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.4em;vertical-align:top;border:none">UTC+11
hours</td>
</tr>
<tr
style="box-sizing:border-box;background:rgb(243,243,243);border-top:1px
solid rgb(221,221,221);border-bottom:1px
solid rgb(221,221,221)">
<td
style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.4em;vertical-align:top;border:none"><a
href="https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/new-zealand/wellington"
title="Current local time in Wellington"
style="box-sizing:border-box;background:transparent;color:rgb(85,107,181);text-decoration-line:none"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">Wellington</a> <span
style="box-sizing:border-box;font-size:12.6px">(New Zealand -
Wellington)</span></td>
<td
style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.4em;vertical-align:top;border:none">Friday,
20 December 2019 at 8:00:00 am</td>
<td
style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.4em;vertical-align:top;border:none"><a
href="https://www.timeanddate.com/time/zones/nzdt" title="New Zealand
Daylight Time"
style="box-sizing:border-box;background:transparent;color:rgb(85,107,181);text-decoration-line:none"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">NZDT</a></td>
<td
style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.4em;vertical-align:top;border:none">UTC+13
hours</td>
</tr>
<tr
style="box-sizing:border-box;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">
<td
style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.4em;vertical-align:top;border:none"><a
href="https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/uk/london" title="Current
local time in London"
style="box-sizing:border-box;background:transparent;color:rgb(85,107,181);text-decoration-line:none"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">London</a> <span
style="box-sizing:border-box;font-size:12.6px">(United Kingdom -
England)</span></td>
<td
style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.4em;vertical-align:top;border:none">Thursday,
19 December 2019 at 7:00:00 pm</td>
<td
style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.4em;vertical-align:top;border:none"><a
href="https://www.timeanddate.com/time/zones/gmt" title="Greenwich Mean
Time"
style="box-sizing:border-box;background:transparent;color:rgb(85,107,181);text-decoration-line:none"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">GMT</a></td>
<td
style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.4em;vertical-align:top;border:none">UTC</td>
</tr>
<tr
style="box-sizing:border-box;background:rgb(243,243,243);border-top:1px
solid rgb(221,221,221);border-bottom:1px
solid rgb(221,221,221)">
<td
style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.4em;vertical-align:top;border:none"><a
href="https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/netherlands/amsterdam"
title="Current local time in Amsterdam"
style="box-sizing:border-box;background:transparent;color:rgb(85,107,181);text-decoration-line:none"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">Amsterdam</a> <span
style="box-sizing:border-box;font-size:12.6px">(Netherlands)</span></td>
<td
style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.4em;vertical-align:top;border:none">Thursday,
19 December 2019 at 8:00:00 pm</td>
<td
style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.4em;vertical-align:top;border:none"><a
href="https://www.timeanddate.com/time/zones/cet" title="Central
European Time"
style="box-sizing:border-box;background:transparent;color:rgb(85,107,181);text-decoration-line:none"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">CET</a></td>
<td
style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.4em;vertical-align:top;border:none">UTC+1
hour</td>
</tr>
<tr
style="box-sizing:border-box;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">
<td
style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.4em;vertical-align:top;border:none">Corresponding
UTC (GMT)</td>
<td
style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.4em;vertical-align:top;border:none"><a
href="https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20191219T1900"
style="box-sizing:border-box;background:transparent;color:rgb(85,107,181);text-decoration-line:none"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">Thursday,
19 December 2019 at 19:00:00</a></td>
<td
style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.4em;vertical-align:top;border:none"> </td>
<td
style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.4em;vertical-align:top;border:none"> </td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, 19 Dec
2019 at 06:36, Jo Cook <<a
href="mailto:jo.k.cook@gmail.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">jo.k.cook@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="auto">Cameron,
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<div dir="auto">I didn't get notification that
you'd moved the meeting, did you send an email
notification? Sure, happy to move it but we'll
have to decide a time that works for everyone
in the new year.</div>
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</div>
<div dir="auto">Jo</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, 18 Dec
2019, 18:37 Cameron Shorter, <<a
href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">cameron.shorter@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
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<p>Hey Jo, would it be okay to move the
meeting to 9 hours later, so that Byron
can attend? (I've sent out a meeting
invite earlier)<br>
</p>
<p>Swapnil, Paul, Byron and I have confirmed
availability.<br>
</p>
<div>On 19/12/19 5:06 am, Jo Cook wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="auto">Hi All,
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">Our fortnightly
Geonetwork meeting is at 10am GMT
tomorrow via Google hangout. Let me
know if you need an invite.</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">Thanks</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">Jo</div>
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Open Technologies and Geospatial Consultant
M +61 (0) 419 142 254</pre>
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Technology Demystifier
Open Technologies and Geospatial Consultant
M +61 (0) 419 142 254</pre>
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