<p dir="ltr">Agree.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Let's start the github with Luis first, ans what will the next step.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Julien.</p>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">Le 30 août 2016 10:28, "<a href="mailto:manfred@egger-gis.at">manfred@egger-gis.at</a>" <<a href="mailto:manfred@egger-gis.at">manfred@egger-gis.at</a>> a écrit :<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">... how long is your request to <a href="http://epsg.io" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">epsg.io</a> ago? I talked with Petr in Bonn and he said they have big troubles to keep their database updated daily (they are not paid). They use their <a href="http://epsg.io" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">epsg.io</a> mainly for their customers and by the side everyone can use it, if they want.<br>
I feel they have not time and money to maintain a free open source Service additional to their job?<br>
<br>
So we need first a decision by OSGeo to promote a stable service like Aarons with a database for all developers, before wie begin to set up a database or collect data in github?<br>
<br>
It must not be <a href="http://epsg.io" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">epsg.io</a>, but i think they have a good idea searching projection for each country, which is similar to Aarons idea.<br>
<br>
I hope you know what i mean?<br>
<br>
Manfred<br>
<br>
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Hi manfred (and others),<br>
<br>
That's a good starting point !<br>
<br>
But indeed, <a href="http://epsg.io" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">epsg.io</a> do not answer my change request on their site, about a<br>
projection that seems to be incorrect for @bbrala on proj4. May be I need<br>
to wait a little more, or create a pull request.<br>
<br>
Their spatial reference is the same data as proj4, a big file with any defs.<br>
I don't really like it, that why I propose on the main discussion list to<br>
start a git for that.<br>
What do you think of it ?<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
julien2512<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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> Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2016 00:27:04 -0400 (EDT)<br>
> From: "<a href="mailto:manfred@egger-gis.at">manfred@egger-gis.at</a>" <<a href="mailto:manfred@egger-gis.at">manfred@egger-gis.at</a>><br>
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> Subject: [<a href="http://sr.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">sr.org</a>] SHAPEFILE PROJECTIONFINDER<br>
> Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:1472358424.98151439@webmail.jimdo.com">1472358424.98151439@webmail.<wbr>jimdo.com</a>><br>
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> Hello,<br>
><br>
> In Bonn i talked with Venkatesh Raghavan of OSGeo. He also recommended me<br>
> to join the OSGeo mailing list to discuss about a stable server including<br>
> Aarons Service with all epsg codes and esri and community defs of your<br>
> website. You will get a mail in the next days about this topic. Maybe<br>
> <a href="http://epsg.io" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">epsg.io</a> would be a good platform for such a "global" solution. I talked<br>
> with them in Bonn too.<br>
><br>
><br>
> About your last question (Windwos-GIU). This tool on my website is only a<br>
> prototype to show people a sample how people can find and define unknown<br>
> projection of geo data fast. So there can be later other solutions as<br>
> QGIS-Plugin, ArcGis-Toolbox, mobile, Web, ... I should not use the<br>
> testservice of Aaaran...<br>
><br>
><br>
> So please wait some days...<br>
><br>
> Best regards<br>
><br>
> Manfred Egger<br>
><br>
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> Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 22:32:02 +0200<br>
> From: Julien Moquet <<a href="mailto:moquet.julien@gmail.com">moquet.julien@gmail.com</a>><br>
> To: <a href="mailto:spatialreference.org@lists.osgeo.org">spatialreference.org@lists.<wbr>osgeo.org</a><br>
> Subject: Re: [<a href="http://sr.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">sr.org</a>] <a href="http://spatialreference.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">spatialreference.org</a> Digest, Vol 3, Issue 3<br>
> Message-ID:<br>
> <<wbr>CANigTqUFqpmH2e9p9P4OMAO2JZPh2<wbr>sQu0z2vt9H_sgNpiAf28g@mail.<br>
> <a href="http://gmail.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">gmail.com</a>><br>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br>
><br>
> Yes, <a href="http://epsg.io" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">epsg.io</a> seems to use a reverse projection query like aaronr's (the<br>
> change function on the map uses distance as an accuracy for each<br>
> projection).<br>
> It could be interesting to find how they do inside their code :<br>
> <a href="https://github.com/klokantech/epsg.io" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/klokantech/<wbr>epsg.io</a><br>
> I think it is stable, but you should ask them before stepping your plan !<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Sorry, I will not be in Bonn that year, I heard of it too late, and without<br>
> a big project to tell everybody of !<br>
><br>
> Indeed, your project is a good idea, and I am interested in freewebservices<br>
> over the internet.<br>
> May you ask osgeo mailing list already ? Many others might share the same<br>
> bet as you.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> A last question : why are you making windows guis ? It will not work on<br>
> mobile devices nor other OS, and far away your very good proposal of free<br>
> webservices !<br>
><br>
> Regards,<br>
> Julien.<br>
><br>
> 2016-08-22 21:00 GMT+02:00 <<a href="mailto:spatialreference.org-request@lists.osgeo.org">spatialreference.org-request@<wbr>lists.osgeo.org</a>>:<br>
><br>
> > Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2016 16:22:26 -0400 (EDT)<br>
> > From: "<a href="mailto:manfred@egger-gis.at">manfred@egger-gis.at</a>" <<a href="mailto:manfred@egger-gis.at">manfred@egger-gis.at</a>><br>
> > To: <a href="mailto:spatialreference.org@lists.osgeo.org">spatialreference.org@lists.<wbr>osgeo.org</a><br>
> > Subject: Re: [<a href="http://sr.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">sr.org</a>] <a href="http://spatialreference.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">spatialreference.org</a> Digest, Vol 3, Issue 3<br>
> > Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:1471810946.701431085@webmail.jimdo.com">1471810946.701431085@webmail.<wbr>jimdo.com</a>><br>
> > Content-Type: text/plain;charset=UTF-8<br>
> ><br>
> > Hello!<br>
> ><br>
> > Sorry i saw your response to late, so forget my Email some minutes ago.<br>
> ><br>
> > So it is possible to search all possible projections of a country like in<br>
> > <a href="https://epsg.io" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://epsg.io</a>? Maybe this is the reason why people use <a href="http://epsg.io" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">epsg.io</a> ?<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > Maybe you know this Test-Api:<br>
> ><br>
> > <a href="https://github.com/aaronr/api.projfinder.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/aaronr/api.<wbr>projfinder.com</a><br>
> ><br>
> > I used the testservice of Aaron Racicot to develop a tool called<br>
> > "Shapefile ProjectionFinder".<br>
> ><br>
> > At FOSS4G 2016 in Bonn (Germany) i will make a poster presentation about<br>
> > this tool.<br>
> ><br>
> > Maybe you have time to look on my website and tell me what you thing<br>
> about<br>
> > this tool and the idea to install the testservice of Aaron Racicot on a<br>
> > stable server.<br>
> ><br>
> > <a href="http://www.egger-gis.at/shapefile-projectionfinder/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.egger-gis.at/<wbr>shapefile-projectionfinder/</a><br>
> ><br>
> > Are you in Bonn? I am there on 25th of August.<br>
> ><br>
> > Best regards<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > Manfred Egger<br>
> ><br>
> > Alois-Schrott-Str. 34<br>
> > 6020 Innsbruck<br>
> > Austria<br>
> ><br>
> > Web: <a href="http://egger-gis.at" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://egger-gis.at</a><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2016 01:24:08 +0200<br>
> > From: Julien Moquet <<a href="mailto:moquet.julien@gmail.com">moquet.julien@gmail.com</a>><br>
> > To: <a href="mailto:spatialreference.org@lists.osgeo.org">spatialreference.org@lists.<wbr>osgeo.org</a><br>
> > Subject: Re: [<a href="http://sr.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">sr.org</a>] Update 2013<br>
> > Message-ID:<br>
> > <CANigTqVT+ZYRyPN7TqFP4ohj=<wbr>6Qjr-5SBZmokY+sfWWqwRrWVg@<wbr>mail.<br>
> > <a href="http://gmail.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">gmail.com</a>><br>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br>
> ><br>
> > Hi Manfred,<br>
> ><br>
> > May be <a href="https://epsg.io" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://epsg.io</a> kills spatialreference ?<br>
> ><br>
> > It offers nearby the same options, although without esri and community<br>
> > defs.<br>
> ><br>
> > Regards,<br>
> > Julien2512<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 05:12:30 -0400 (EDT)<br>
> > From: "<a href="mailto:manfred@egger-gis.at">manfred@egger-gis.at</a>" <<a href="mailto:manfred@egger-gis.at">manfred@egger-gis.at</a>><br>
> > To: <a href="mailto:spatialreference.org@lists.osgeo.org">spatialreference.org@lists.<wbr>osgeo.org</a><br>
> > Subject: [<a href="http://sr.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">sr.org</a>] Update 2013<br>
> > Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:1471252350.40445850@webmail.jimdo.com">1471252350.40445850@webmail.<wbr>jimdo.com</a>><br>
> > Content-Type: text/plain;charset=UTF-8<br>
> ><br>
> > Hello,<br>
> ><br>
> > was the last update of epsg-codes on <a href="http://spatialrefrence.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://spatialrefrence.org</a> in the<br>
> > year<br>
> > 2013?<br>
> ><br>
> > Best regards<br>
> ><br>
> > Manfred Egger<br>
> ><br>
> > Alois-Schrott-Str. 34<br>
> > 6020 Innsbruck<br>
> > Austria<br>
> ><br>
> > Web: <a href="http://egger-gis.at" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://egger-gis.at</a><br>
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> To: "Aaron Racicot" <<a href="mailto:aaronr@z-pulley.com">aaronr@z-pulley.com</a>>, <a href="mailto:petr.pridal@klokantech.com">petr.pridal@klokantech.com</a>,<br>
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> with no projection information automatically<br>
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> Look below, else forget this email.<br>
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> Best regards!<br>
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> -----Original Message-----<br>
> From: "<a href="mailto:manfred@egger-gis.at">manfred@egger-gis.at</a>" <<a href="mailto:manfred@egger-gis.at">manfred@egger-gis.at</a>><br>
> Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2016 12:05pm<br>
> To: <a href="mailto:discuss@lists.osgeo.org">discuss@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>
> Subject: Detect and define the coordinate system of gis data with no<br>
> projection information automatically<br>
><br>
> Hello,<br>
><br>
> At FOSS4G 2016 in Bonn i talked with Venkatesh Raghavan about my poster<br>
> presentation "SHAPEFILE PROJECTIONFINDER". URL to poster:<br>
> <a href="http://www.egger-gis.at/app/download/13175253496/POSTER_" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.egger-gis.at/app/<wbr>download/13175253496/POSTER_</a><br>
> EGGER_FOSS4G.pdf?t=1469787116<br>
><br>
> He recommended to start a discussion in this mailing list about the topic<br>
> mentioned in the mail subject.<br>
><br>
> I also talked in Bonn with Petr Pridal about <a href="http://epsg.io" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://epsg.io</a>. Some days<br>
> before Bonn i wrote emails to Aaaron Racicot and the mailing list of<br>
> <a href="http://spatialrefrence.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://spatialrefrence.org</a>.<br>
><br>
> Please read first carefully on my website, what i plan to do:<br>
><br>
> <a href="http://www.egger-gis.at/shapefile-projectionfinder/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.egger-gis.at/<wbr>shapefile-projectionfinder/</a><br>
><br>
> There are two problems to solve before tools like SHAPEFILE<br>
> PROJECTIONFINDER can be developed as a sustainable solution:<br>
><br>
> 1. Until today there is no stable free service running like<br>
> <a href="http://www.projfinder.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">www.projfinder.com</a> by Aaron Racicot, which can be used by all developers.<br>
><br>
> 2. Until today there is no open source database which includes all<br>
> coordinate system with epsg-code and additionally user and esri definded<br>
> grids.<br>
><br>
> There are open source solutions like:<br>
><br>
> - <a href="http://spatialrefrence.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">spatialrefrence.org</a><br>
> - <a href="http://epsg.io" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">epsg.io</a><br>
><br>
> But in the detail both solutions have problems to update their database<br>
> with low costs.<br>
><br>
> Maybe OSGeo can promote a stable service with load balancing on the base<br>
> of an existing solution like <a href="http://epsg.io" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">epsg.io</a> including Aarons idea?<br>
><br>
> Maybe organisation like UN, a university or EU (INTERREG) are possible<br>
> project partners/sponsors for such a solution?<br>
><br>
> The goal is: Tools like SHAPEFILE PROJECTIONFINDER, a Q-GIS-Plugin or a<br>
> mobile application can use a stable free gis-service updated daily and help<br>
> gis users to solve projection troubles faster. I think gis users working<br>
> not everyday with gis will be happy about this solutions?<br>
><br>
> What do you think about my idea?<br>
><br>
> Best regards,<br>
><br>
> Manfred Egger<br>
><br>
> Alois-Schrott-Str. 34<br>
> 6020 Innsbruck<br>
> Austria<br>
><br>
> Web: <a href="http://egger-gis.at" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://egger-gis.at</a><br>
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