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<br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On May 13, 2015, at 3:00 PM, Carl Reed <<a href="mailto:carl.n.reed@gmail.com" class="">carl.n.reed@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class="">Tom and Peter -<br class=""><br class=""></div>While not on OGC staff any longer, after 14 years . . .<br class=""><br class=""></div>Peter's caveats are spot on. There is an OGC directive that formally states that the OGC schema repository in the normative reference and that if an OGC standards document is different or if a copy of an OGC schema is different from that in the OGC schema repository, then the OGC schema repository shall be considered normative. This directive came about as a result of the corrigendum PnP discussions that occurred a number of years ago.<br class=""><br class=""></div>Regards<br class=""><br class=""></div>Carl<br class=""><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 2:32 PM, Tom Kralidis <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:tomkralidis@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">tomkralidis@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br class="">
Peter: thanks for the feedback, and good points.  The README should definitely<br class="">
have these caveats.  Comments from OGC proper would be valued.  Contributions<br class="">
on the README/codebase are also welcome.  A build/release process will be<br class="">
very straightforward to ensure keeping up to date, which will be triggered<br class="">
off the RSS feed on <a href="http://schemas.opengis.net/" target="_blank" class="">http://schemas.opengis.net/</a><br class="">
<br class="">
Having said this, if OGC were interested to stand up such a package in<br class="">
authority, this would be much preferred over my initial proposal.<br class="">
<br class="">
(timely) aside:  <a href="http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/schemas.opengis.net" target="_blank" class="">http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/schemas.opengis.net</a><br class="">
<br class="">
..Tom<br class="">
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On Wed, 13 May 2015, Peter Baumann wrote:<br class="">
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Date: Wed, 13 May 2015 22:20:53 +0200<br class="">
From: Peter Baumann <<a href="mailto:p.baumann@jacobs-university.de" target="_blank" class="">p.baumann@jacobs-university.de</a>><br class="">
To: Tom Kralidis <<a href="mailto:tomkralidis@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">tomkralidis@gmail.com</a>>,<br class="">
    "<a href="mailto:standards@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank" class="">standards@lists.osgeo.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:standards@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank" class="">standards@lists.osgeo.org</a>><br class="">
Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Standards] OGC Schemas software distribution update and<br class="">
    package proposal<br class="">
<br class="">
Tom-<br class="">
<br class="">
being an active OGC standards writer myself I'd say: OGC standards are free &<br class="">
open, so no problem duplicating them elsewhere, as long as 2 caveats are followed:<br class="">
- should be clearly marked as a non-authoritative copy<br class="">
- is on risk of getting outdated, obviously, unless some "nightly" pull<br class="">
mechanism gets installed<br class="">
<br class="">
But this is just me, informally, who gets his hands dirty with doing stuff - for<br class="">
sure an official OGC position should be sought.<br class="">
<br class="">
my 2 cents,<br class="">
Peter<br class="">
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<br class="">
On 05/13/15 22:06, Tom Kralidis wrote:<br class="">
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Hi all: just wanted to bump the following:<br class="">
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<a href="http://osgeo-org.1560.x6.nabble.com/OGC-XML-schemas-and-FOSS4G-software-distribution-td5186023.html" target="_blank" class="">http://osgeo-org.1560.x6.nabble.com/OGC-XML-schemas-and-FOSS4G-software-distribution-td5186023.html</a><br class="">
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<br class="">
Has there been any further discussion between OGC / OSGeo in this regard?<br class="">
<br class="">
Having said this, I've started drafting a Python package [1] which<br class="">
will bundle <a href="http://schemas.opengis.net/" target="_blank" class="">http://schemas.opengis.net</a> and make it available, along<br class="">
with an XML catalog, to downstream applications for ease of use.  For<br class="">
applications who use the OGC Schemas to do realtime validation and store<br class="">
the schemas in the codebase, this will provide that package, thus reducing<br class="">
schemas in codebases.  The plan will be to make OS packages<br class="">
packages (Debian, Ubuntu, Fedora, etc.), allowing for any application to<br class="">
leverage.<br class="">
<br class="">
..Tom<br class="">
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[1] <a href="https://github.com/OSGeo/schemas-opengis-net" target="_blank" class="">https://github.com/OSGeo/schemas-opengis-net</a><br class="">
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