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Hi Scott,<br>
Here is where I see this conversation stalling (on this list that I
follow):<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 24/02/2015 6:00 am, Sebastiaan
Couwenberg wrote:<br>
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<pre wrap="">Hi Scott,
On 02/23/2015 05:09 PM, Scott Simmons wrote:
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<pre wrap="">OGC staff have been watching the conversation and we have discussed internally how we might better meet the needs of this community.
I’ll get our license experts in touch with the FTP Masters this week.
We truly want to do whatever possible to ensure that OGC licensing is not a hurdle!
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Thanks for your willingness to join the discussion with the Debian FTP
masters!
Please keep the OSGeo Standards and Debian GIS lists in the loop.
Kind Regards,
Bas
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It sounds like it might be worth revisiting, and potentially drawing
upon relationships we have within OSGeo, UbuntuGIS and DebianGIS to
see if we can escalate.<br>
<br>
I suspect Bas might be able to call on a favour or two, or we might
be able to call upon the OSGeo Board to reach out.<br>
<br>
Who are the people within OGC to talk with about this?<br>
<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 26/11/2015 11:13 pm, Scott Simmons
wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:63948375-94B5-41B3-B3A6-FE1B9E1E742A@opengeospatial.org"
type="cite">Bas,
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<div class="">We never heard back from the Debian folks on issues
with OGC license terms. I would love to engage them, but admit
that I am at a loss as to how to progress!</div>
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<div class="">Best Regards.</div>
<div class="">Scott</div>
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<div class="">Scott Simmons</div>
<div class="">Executive Director, Standards Program</div>
<div class="">Open Geospatial Consortium (OGC)</div>
<div class="">
<div class="">tel +1 970 682 1922</div>
<div class="">mob +1 970 214 9467</div>
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<div class=""><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:ssimmons@opengeospatial.org" class="">ssimmons@opengeospatial.org</a></div>
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<div class="">The OGC: Making Location Count…</div>
<div class=""><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.opengeospatial.org" class="">www.opengeospatial.org</a></div>
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<div class="">On Nov 26, 2015, at 12:44 AM, Sebastiaan
Couwenberg <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:sebastic@xs4all.nl" class="">sebastic@xs4all.nl</a>>
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26-11-15 06:56, Cameron Shorter wrote:</span><br
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class="">The OGC has technical and planning committee
meetings in Sydney (my home<br class="">
town), next week, 30 Nov - 4 Dec 2016.<br class="">
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href="http://www.opengeospatial.org/event/1512tc"
class="">http://www.opengeospatial.org/event/1512tc</a><br
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I'm hoping to bump into some of the OGC attendees while
in town. (In<br class="">
particular there is a GeoRabble event I will be at).<br
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It might also be a good chance to talk about any
OSGeo/OGC collaboration.<br class="">
<br class="">
In particular, is the OGC interested in including the
TEAM certification<br class="">
engine on OSGeo-Live? We have just kicked of the build
process for our next<br class="">
release, and now would be an opportune time to discuss
including the<br class="">
application.<br class="">
<br class="">
Also, we have previously discussed integrating OGC
Standards documentation<br class="">
with OSGeo-Live documentation. Is the development of
documentation of OGC<br class="">
standards still progressing?<br class="">
It might be a good chance to discuss that too.<br
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<span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px;
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display: inline !important;" class="">If the OGC
documentation is licensed under the terms of the OGC
Document</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica;
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<span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px;
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none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing:
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display: inline !important;" class="">Notice this is
problematic due to the non-free nature of the license.</span><br
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<br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px;
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<span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px;
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display: inline !important;" class="">I'd like to know
if OGC has been able to get in touch with the Debian</span><br
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<span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px;
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display: inline !important;" class="">project to discuss
the issues with the OGC Document & Software notices.</span><br
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<span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px;
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display: inline !important;" class="">There hasn't been
any public progress since this was last discussed on</span><br
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<span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px;
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display: inline !important;" class="">this list ('OGC
XML schemas and FOSS4G software distribution' thread).</span><br
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<span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px;
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display: inline !important;" class="">Kind Regards,</span><br
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<span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px;
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Software and Data Solutions Manager
LISAsoft
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