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    Hi Luis,<br>
    Yes, this is excellent material.<br>
    I'm happy to provide some feedback on the semantics of your content
    a bit later.<br>
    <br>
    But first I think we should plan a long term strategy for how OGC
    standards are developed and published, and refine our ground rules.
    Maybe something like a MoU.<br>
    <br>
    What is OGC's schedule? Does it fit with the OSGeo-Live schedule?
    What should be included in the next release?<br>
    Scott's comment earlier was "some things to review shortly after the
    New Year". So we would need a bit more insight before we expand on
    that.<br>
    <br>
    What will be our development model. Who will be allowed/encouraged
    to edit docs? Do you want to try and tap into the OSGeo community to
    create content? If so, we should publish a "Howto contribute", along
    with a template for standards.<br>
    Do we want to publish our material to wikipedia or other sources?<br>
    <br>
    We should try to avoid multiple points of truth. I'd imagine that
    the OGC would maintain a point of truth, which then gets
    incorporated into OSGeo-Live.<br>
    <br>
    OSGeo-Live docs get translated into 10+ languages by the OSGeo-Live
    community. Does the OGC wish to take advantage of this? If so, we
    should work out the process.<br>
    <br>
    The documents you mention are referencing an external WMS Server.
    This introduces potential obsolescence  issues, such as if the
    server changes of goes down in a year or two. OSGeo-Live also has
    WMS Servers, with sample data. This could potentially be used as
    reference source. (Note, we'd need to think through security of
    OSGeo Live if publishing to the web) <br>
    <br>
    We have the potential to create an OGC training course, all self
    contained on the OSGeo-Live VM, with overviews, exercises and sample
    data. It would involve tweaking your existing docs, matching with
    web services and data already on OSGeo-Live. Is this a goal you
    would wish to pursue?<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/12/2015 2:11 am, Luis Bermudez
      wrote:<br>
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      <div>We also have some material that you might consider including
        in the OSGeo-Live DVD available at the OGC E-Learning
        repository. The standards in the repository have a main page
        that provides an introduction to the standard. See for example:</div>
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href="https://github.com/opengeospatial/e-learning/blob/master/source/kml/text/basic-main.rst">https://github.com/opengeospatial/e-learning/blob/master/source/kml/text/basic-main.rst</a></div>
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href="https://github.com/opengeospatial/e-learning/blob/master/source/csw/text/main.rst">https://github.com/opengeospatial/e-learning/blob/master/source/csw/text/main.rst</a></div>
      <div>- <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://github.com/opengeospatial/e-learning/blob/master/source/wms/text/basic-main.rst">https://github.com/opengeospatial/e-learning/blob/master/source/wms/text/basic-main.rst</a></div>
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      <div>You can see our deployment here:</div>
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      <div>As always your comments are much welcomed.</div>
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      <div>Best Regards</div>
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                  Bermudez, Ph.D.<br>
                  Executive Director Compliance and E-Learning<br>
                  Open Geospatial Consortium (OGC)<br>
                  Skype: bermudez_luis<br>
                  Twitter: @berdez<br>
                  Tel: +1 301 760 7323<br>
                  <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/bermudez">https://www.linkedin.com/in/bermudez</a><br>
                  <br>
                  The OGC: Making Location Count</div>
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          <div>On Dec 1, 2015, at 5:39 AM, Scott Simmons <<a
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              Cameron,
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              <div class="">Not quite at the hint point yet… but I
                expect that we will have some things to review shortly
                after the New Year.</div>
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              <div class="">Best Regards,</div>
              <div class="">Scott</div>
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                    <div class="">On Dec 1, 2015, at 1:21 AM, Cameron
                      Shorter <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                        Scott,<br class="">
                        Thanks for providing some hints at what is
                        coming. <br class="">
                        Are you in a position yet to share plans about
                        your schedule and at what point you would be
                        looking for feedback?<br class="">
                        <br class="">
                        Warm regards, Cameron<br class="">
                        <br class="">
                        <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 1/12/2015 12:27
                          pm, Scott Simmons wrote:<br class="">
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                          Dear Cameron,<br class="">
                          <br class="">
                          Thanks for attending the Sydney GeoRabble last
                          night and paying attention to my talk!  As I
                          noted last night, the OGC Membership will
                          continue to develop Standards according to our
                          process and the normative publications will
                          remain in a format that is most compatible
                          with the requirements of our members and
                          alliance partners. However, we are working
                          toward one or more alternative publication
                          “styles” and auxiliary material to assist the
                          broad developer community with implementation
                          of OGC Standards.
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                          <div class="">We appreciate the offer of
                            including such an alternative publication
                            style in the OSGeo-Live DVD. Given the need
                            to ensure that our documentation directly
                            references OGC and dependent normative
                            resources, it is not practical at this stage
                            to connect the development of the documents
                            to the upcoming OSGeo-Live release. We are
                            happy to discuss at a later stage how we
                            might coordinate as our process matures. In
                            the meantime, we encourage OSGeo and all our
                            partners to provide feedback to us as we
                            release these new formats.<br class="">
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                          <div class="">Good seeing you last night.</div>
                          <div class=""><br class="">
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                          <div class="">Best Regards,</div>
                          <div class="">Scott</div>
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                                <div class="">Scott Simmons</div>
                                <div class="">Executive Director,
                                  Standards Program</div>
                                <div class="">Open Geospatial Consortium
                                  (OGC)</div>
                                <div class="">
                                  <div class="">tel +1 970 682 1922</div>
                                  <div class="">mob +1 970 214 9467</div>
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                                <div class=""><a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                                <div class="">The OGC: Making Location
                                  Count…</div>
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                                <div class="">On Nov 30, 2015, at 4:08
                                  AM, Cameron Shorter <<a
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                                  <div class="">The OGC Technical
                                    Committee technical meeting started
                                    today, and I had the great pleasure
                                    in meeting many people face-to-face,
                                    whom I previously only knew by email
                                    address, as well as catch up with
                                    many I hadn't seen for years.<br
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                                    <br class="">
                                    Of relevance to this thread was that
                                    Scott Simmons presented on his hopes
                                    to make OGC standards much more
                                    readable and usable.<br class="">
                                    <br class="">
                                    Scott,<br class="">
                                    As mentioned, I'm keen to see the
                                    OGC documentation to dove-tail with
                                    OSGeo-Live documentation.<br
                                      class="">
                                    In particular, I suggest that the
                                    OGC might want to consider using a
                                    similar development process to
                                    OSGeo-Live, writing a template, then
                                    inviting the community to help write
                                    the documentation, then applying a
                                    review cycle, then offering the docs
                                    to be translated.<br class="">
                                    <br class="">
                                    Community building process is
                                    described here:<br class="">
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href="http://cameronshorter.blogspot.com.au/2011/06/memoirs-of-cat-herder-coordinating.html"
                                      class="">http://cameronshorter.blogspot.com.au/2011/06/memoirs-of-cat-herder-coordinating.html</a><br
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                                    <br class="">
                                    Our documentation writing process is
                                    here:<br class="">
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                                    <br class="">
                                    Docs here:<br class="">
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                                      href="http://live.osgeo.org/en/overview/overview.html">http://live.osgeo.org/en/overview/overview.html</a><br
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                                    <br class="">
                                    Presentation:<br class="">
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                                    <br class="">
                                    We are in the process of defining
                                    what will be included for OSGeo-Live
                                    9.5.<br class="">
                                    Maybe for this release we can aim to
                                    get one exemplar standard written
                                    up, possibly more, which can then be
                                    reviewed and refined for future
                                    releases, and used as a template for
                                    other standards.<br class="">
                                    <br class="">
                                    Warm regards,<br class="">
                                    Cameron Shorter<br class="">
                                    <br class="">
                                    On 23/11/2015 6:18 am, Cameron
                                    Shorter wrote:<br class="">
                                    <blockquote type="cite" class="">We
                                      are starting the build cycle for
                                      version 9.5 of the OSGeo-Live [1]
                                      DVD/USB/VM which will be released
                                      in March 2016, ready for several
                                      special events, including
                                      FOSS4G-NA, FOSSGIS (Salzburg,
                                      Austria), among others.<br
                                        class="">
                                      <br class="">
                                      We would like to hear from anyone
                                      wishing to add new projects to
                                      OSGeo-Live, anyone wishing to
                                      extend or add translations, or
                                      anyone who has ideas on how we
                                      should shape the upcoming release.<br
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                                      <br class="">
                                      Key Milestones<br class="">
                                      11 Jan 2016 All new applications
                                      installed, most old applications
                                      updated<br class="">
                                      01 Feb 2016 Feature Freeze (all
                                      apps updated)<br class="">
                                      15 Feb 2016 User Acceptance Test
                                      (all apps installed and working)<br
                                        class="">
                                      21 Mar 2016 Final ISO sent to
                                      printers<br class="">
                                      <br class="">
                                      About OSGeo-Live<br class="">
                                      OSGeo-live is a Lubuntu based
                                      distribution of Geospatial Open
                                      Source Software, available via a
                                      Live DVD, Virtual Machine and USB.
                                      You can use OSGeo-Live to try a
                                      wide variety of open source
                                      geospatial software without
                                      installing anything.<br class="">
                                      <br class="">
                                      [1] <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                                    <br class="">
                                    -- <br class="">
                                    Cameron Shorter,<br class="">
                                    Software and Data Solutions Manager<br
                                      class="">
                                    LISAsoft<br class="">
                                    Suite 112, Jones Bay Wharf,<br
                                      class="">
                                    26 - 32 Pirrama Rd, Pyrmont NSW 2009<br
                                      class="">
                                    <br class="">
                                    P +61 2 9009 5000,  W <a
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                                      href="http://www.lisasoft.com/"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.lisasoft.com">www.lisasoft.com</a></a>,
                                     F +61 2 9009 5099<br class="">
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Cameron Shorter,
Software and Data Solutions Manager
LISAsoft
Suite 112, Jones Bay Wharf,
26 - 32 Pirrama Rd, Pyrmont NSW 2009

P +61 2 9009 5000,  W <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.lisasoft.com/">www.lisasoft.com</a>,  F +61 2 9009 5099</pre>
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Cameron Shorter,
Software and Data Solutions Manager
LISAsoft
Suite 112, Jones Bay Wharf,
26 - 32 Pirrama Rd, Pyrmont NSW 2009

P +61 2 9009 5000,  W <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.lisasoft.com">www.lisasoft.com</a>,  F +61 2 9009 5099</pre>
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