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    <p>Thanks Bruce, answers to comments below. (Longer version in the
      paper linked at the end)<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 17/7/19 12:15 pm, Bruce Bannerman
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      OK by me Cameron.
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            <li class="">I have not heard WGS84 referred to as a dynamic
              datum before. I do know of several WGS 84 Epochs though.
              This dynamic datum issue will not be a simple issue to
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    <p>WGS84 is earth fixed, which means a feature's coordinates
      described in WGS84 will shift over time, in line with tectonic
      plate shift.</p>
    <p>Yes, WGS84 has had 6 "realisations" to date, but these have been
      refinements to the alignment of the WGS84 ellipsoid. It doesn't
      account for tectonic plate shift.<br>
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            <li class="">Personally, I don’t believe that it will be
              viable for many, many years (if ever) to manage our data
              within the context of a dynamic data as is proposed by
              some. <br>
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    Storing in the time dependent ITRF or ATRF is a separate issue to
    what is being discussed in this paper.<br>
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            <li class="">As a former spatial data manager with a data
              inventory in the PB, I believe that it is just too
              impractical currently to use a dynamic datum to control
              our vast global holdings and software. <br>
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    A static datum can be used still. The important thing is we need to
    know whether we are using static or dynamic and not get them
    confused.<br>
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            <li class="">When we consider the widespread, global
              ignorance of the need to manage and utilse data within an
              appropriate SRS framework, it is an issue that will not be
              resolved either easily, or in the short term.</li>
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    Yes, very hard problem. One that is very important to solve. Odds of
    success are tough. Challenge accepted. :)<br>
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            <div class="">@Standards list,</div>
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          <div class="">FOR ACTION:</div>
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          <div class="">We have one spare OGC Membership slot avalable
            currently.</div>
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          <div class="">Do we have any objections to Cameron using this
            slot?</div>
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          <div class="">If so, please advise this list by 1400hr 24th
            July 2019 UTC and I’ll start a selection process. If not,
            I’ll advise OGC of Cameron’s nomination for this slot.</div>
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          <div class="">Kind regards,</div>
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          <div class="">Bruce Bannerman</div>
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                <div class="">On 14 Jul 2019, at 08:20, Cameron Shorter
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                  <div dir="ltr" class="">Hi OSGeo standards folks,
                    <div class="">I'd like to request access to one of
                      OSGeo's OGC standards slots. From now until the
                      end of the year, I'm planning to help address a
                      problem with web-mapping. </div>
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                    <div class="">The world is using the dynamic WGS84
                      datum as it were static - which is resulting in
                      map misalignment problems. This is an
                      international problem, which should be done with
                      the collaboration of the OGC, and I'd like to
                      engage within OGC forums as part of this.</div>
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                    <div class="">A more detailed description of the
                      problem is here:</div>
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Cameron Shorter
Technology Demystifier
Open Technologies and Geospatial Consultant

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