<div dir="ltr"><div>Hi all: given the discussion below, it makes sense for the Standards Committee to further discuss voting processes before moving forward. As a result, the motion is withdrawn and will be submitted for Committee vote once we have the appropriate clarifications.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Thanks</div><div><br></div><div>..Tom<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Feb 3, 2023 at 12:19 PM Angelos Tzotsos <<a href="mailto:gcpp.kalxas@gmail.com">gcpp.kalxas@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">ok, I think we need to reach to some agreement on this before passing <br>
the motion.<br>
<br>
How about we require at least 30% of the votes (4 currently) and no veto?<br>
<br>
Angelos<br>
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On 2/3/23 18:28, Howard Butler wrote:<br>
> I am also -0. Anything controversial is going to attract attention and discussion, and anything that is inert or procedural ends up requiring chasing people to meet quorum requirements (I think I have resigned from the Incubation committee three different times as a result of people chasing votes).<br>
><br>
> Howard<br>
><br>
>> On Feb 3, 2023, at 10:21 AM, Even Rouault <<a href="mailto:even.rouault@spatialys.com" target="_blank">even.rouault@spatialys.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> I'm -0 on the change for a 50% quorum. Other OSGeo committees have such a quorum rule and struggle with reaching it because some members over time start become inactive and don't bother formally resigning, and people have to spend energy chasing for votes. The 2 +1 no -1 is very effective to avoid inactive members to become a burden for the rest of the group.<br>
>><br>
>> Le 03/02/2023 à 12:25, Tom Kralidis a écrit :<br>
>>> Hi Bruce: thanks for the feedback. The voting period has been extended to one week, with a required 50% quorum.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Given the change to the ToR, we will need to re-vote.<br>
>>><br>
>>> I will start with my +1 given the updated ToR.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Thanks<br>
>>><br>
>>> ..Tom<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> On Wed, Feb 1, 2023 at 8:15 PM Bruce Bannerman <<a href="mailto:bruce.bannerman.osgeo@gmail.com" target="_blank">bruce.bannerman.osgeo@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:bruce.bannerman.osgeo@gmail.com" target="_blank">bruce.bannerman.osgeo@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
>>>> Hi Tom,<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> It is good to see this development!<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> I’m in broad support of the TOR as at [1] below.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Two suggestions:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Voting:<br>
>>>> I think that the two day limit on voting is too short, based on my experiences with the Incubation Committee.<br>
>>>> Time needs to be allowed for members to find the proposal, review a proposal, think about it and then vote.<br>
>>>> When committee members are busy, travelling, on holidays etc, 2 days is too short.<br>
>>>> I suggest a one week limit to each vote.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Quorum [2]<br>
>>>> I think that a Quorum of two is too small.<br>
>>>> Is the committee expecting minimal input from members? If so then I’d question the raison d'etre of the committee.<br>
>>>> Perhaps set the Quorum at 51% of votes or something similar?<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Kind regards,<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Bruce<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> [2] <a href="https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/quorum" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/quorum</a><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>>> On 2 Feb 2023, at 01:44, Tom Kralidis <<a href="mailto:tomkralidis@gmail.com" target="_blank">tomkralidis@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:tomkralidis@gmail.com" target="_blank">tomkralidis@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Hi all: triggered by our recently updated MOU with OGC, and as discussed/presented at FOSS4G Florence, various members of the OSGeo standards community have been working together to establish a dedicated OSGeo Standards Committee. The first order of business is to put forth a Terms of Reference as part of bootstrapping.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> The Terms of Reference can be found in [1].<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> As part of bootstrapping, the ToR needs to be agreed upon by the initial Committee membership. Once consensus is reached, then the Committee creation can be discussed at the next OSGeo Board meeting (end February) for Board approval.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> I will start with my +1.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Thanks<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> ..Tom<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> [1] <a href="https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Standards_Committee#Terms_of_Reference" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Standards_Committee#Terms_of_Reference</a><br>
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