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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple style='margin-left:3.0pt;margin-top:3.0pt;margin-right:3.0pt;margin-bottom:.75pt'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>What kind of a “room” would be good?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>One big one? Little break-out rooms available?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> tcmug-bounces@lists.osgeo.org [mailto:tcmug-bounces@lists.osgeo.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Dolbow, Mike (MDA)<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 01, 2012 2:48 PM<br><b>To:</b> tcmug@lists.osgeo.org<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [TCMUG] RE: Dreaming of Iron Sheep...<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-right:3.0pt;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>1.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Plan it out very far in advance (several months) so we can try to get #2 & 3 easily<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-right:3.0pt;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>2.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Find a room for free<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-right:3.0pt;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>3.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Make sure it’s either near a) free parking b) transit or within walking distance of the target audience (might be tough to find)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-right:3.0pt;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>4.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Get free food from the Consortium (snacks)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-right:3.0pt;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>5.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Plan happy hour, hopefully nearby<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-right:3.0pt;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>6.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Network, network, network<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-right:3.0pt;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>7.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Season to taste<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-right:6.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>That’s off the top of my head, but I tend to get bogged down in details, so you all might not want to rely on me for “thoughts”. I’m thinking as long as we’re not fronting a lot of money or time, having it be very loosely organized won’t be too bad a thing.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Bob Basques [mailto:Bob.Basques@ci.stpaul.mn.us] <br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 01, 2012 2:39 PM<br><b>To:</b>; Dolbow, Mike (MDA)<br><b>Subject:</b> [TCMUG] RE: Dreaming of Iron Sheep...<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>Count me in. So, what are your thoughts about how to lure those formal folks into something informal? <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>bobb <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'><br><br>>>> "Dolbow, Mike (MDA)" <<a href="mailto:mike.dolbow@state.mn.us">mike.dolbow@state.mn.us</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=3 cellpadding=0 style='margin-left:11.25pt;background:#F3F3F3'><tr><td style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><div style='border:none;border-left:solid #050505 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 5.0pt'><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'>All right, you all know I mostly lurk on this list but David's post made me think "yeah"! I've been trying to sell the idea of an un-conference-style even to a few others lately without a lot of success. This one I think has a good chance at getting legs, and I'd be willing to help. The key selling point for me from David is to "cross-pollinate with Web and Design folks who don't self-identify as GIS or geospatial people". Reason? Us GIS folks are pretty good at doing a lot of informal (and formal) collaboration, but "traditional IT" folks (at least in state agencies) really are only doing formal collaboration. I want to demonstrate the benefits of informal collaboration.<br><br>I'm in. Anyone else?<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: <a href="mailto:tcmug-bounces@lists.osgeo.org">tcmug-bounces@lists.osgeo.org</a> <a href="mailto:[mailto:tcmug-bounces@lists.osgeo.org]">[mailto:tcmug-bounces@lists.osgeo.org]</a> On Behalf Of Fawcett, David (MPCA)<br>Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 12:17 PM<br>To:<br>Subject: [TCMUG] Dreaming of Iron Sheep...<br><br>Living here in the flat land on the craton, the geospatial world tends to mimic the geophysical world. The coasts have some exciting geospatial events going, but they have earthquakes and hurricanes too. <br><br>Aside from the large conferences that cost a lot of money to attend, there are quite a few cheap/free unconferences and other events going on. Free to attend, but one would just have to buy an expensive airplane ticket to get there...<br><br>I lurk on the CUGOS list, and it is cool to see the things that they pull together. The FRUGOS folks have some pretty awesome events too.<br><br>I recently ran across this event. <a href="http://www.floatingsheep.org/2012/01/announcing-iron-sheep-map-and-hack-day.html">http://www.floatingsheep.org/2012/01/announcing-iron-sheep-map-and-hack-day.html</a><br>And I started to wonder if we could pull of something like this here in MN. (Of course, we may not have Michael Goodchild and Javier de la Torre, but how about [fill in your local rockstars here]).<br><br>Here are some random thoughts:<br>- A 4 hour, focused event may be more easy to manage as opposed to an unconference with lots of breakout sessions. <br>- It could be coordinated with MinneBar, MinneWebCon, GIS/LIS, GIS Day, GIS/LIS Spring Workshops, etc. Or it could stand alone.<br>- We could use it as a chance to cross-pollinate with Web and Design folks who don't self-identify as GIS or geospatial people.<br>- We could use it to promote (or stimulate the production) of data services by state agencies and other organizations.<br>- We would get to know each other better.<br>- We could follow it up with a social event.<br><br>Oh yeah, it would be fun!<br><br>David.<br><br><br><br>David J Fawcett, GISP<br>Spatial Database Administrator<br>Information Systems Office<br>Minnesota Pollution Control Agency<br><br>651.757.2350<br><a href="mailto:david.fawcett@state.mn.us">david.fawcett@state.mn.us</a><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Tcmug mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Tcmug@lists.osgeo.org">Tcmug@lists.osgeo.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/tcmug">http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/tcmug</a><br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Tcmug mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Tcmug@lists.osgeo.org">Tcmug@lists.osgeo.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/tcmug">http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/tcmug</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></td></tr></table><p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>