[Ubuntu] Proposal - Cleaning up dependencies/repos

[Alan Boudreault]

Alex,

I understand your concern and I admit it would be a good thing to put 
spatialiate 2.3.1 in the stable PPA rather than 2.4.0 rc. I'm to check this as 
soon as I can. 

Please tell me your launchpad username. I'm going to set you as an allowed 
uploader.

regards,
Alan

On November 24, 2010 07:24:00 pm Alex Mandel wrote:
> I'll test GeoDjango with Spatialite RC from the repo this weekend. I'm
> mostly concerned about known bugs in the new features of spatialite and
> underlying changes to sqlite itself since I'm working right now on
> developing some potential sites for deployment on Ubuntu LTS.
> I believe spatialite 2.4 requires sqlite3 > 3.7.x but LTS ships with
> 3.6.x series and there big differences in features between those (RTree,
> WAL, how a spatial db is initialized), or at least that the author is
> building against 3.7.x series.
> 
> As for gpsprune, yes my ppa has ubuntugis-unstable ppa as a dependency,
> though I'm pretty sure that gpsprune as a simple java app isn't using
> any of them. Looking at the dependency list appears to confirm that; jre
> and a java metadata lib.
> http://activityworkshop.net/software/prune/
> Basic story it's a gps data filtering tool. The author expressed
> interest in getting it onto the next OSGeo-Live disc which is why I
> grabbed the maverick package from upstream and built it for Lucid.
> 
> Thanks,
> Alex
> 
> On 11/24/2010 09:37 AM, Alan Boudreault wrote:
> > I agree that RCs (perhaps excepting grass) should stay in unstable.
> > However, it would be nice to know if there are real issues in
> > qgis/geodjango with spatialite 2.4 rc2 before rebuilding packages in the
> > stable ppa. Do you think you could test that? I'm also uncertain if it's
> > a good thing to downgrade the spatialite package in the repo. But if
> > there are issues, we'll do it. In the future, we will avoid to put RCs
> > in stable.
> > 
> > About gpsprune, have added ubuntugis unstable PPA as dependency in your
> > ppa? If not, it would be useful to recompile your gpsprune package with
> > the ubuntugis dependencies and retest it. (btw, I have absolutely what
> > gpsprune is and what its dependencies are)
> > 
> > Thanks
> > Alan
> > 
> > On November 23, 2010 05:11:05 pm Alex Mandel wrote:
> >> So I ran into an interesting quagmire of dependencies.
> >> The moral of the story, I would like to propose that RC candidates of
> >> apps stay in "unstable" and not trickle into "stable" and maybe not even
> >> into "testing" (this could be a little looser).
> >> 
> >> Particularly the issue I ran into is that spatialite 2.3.1 isn't in the
> >> repos at all, Lucid has 2.3.0 but it seems stuck on geos 3.1.0 which is
> >> making my QGIS crash. I would upgrade to spatialite 2.4 RC but I'm not
> >> sure that plays nice with GeoDjango yet.
> >> 
> >> So under my idea
> >> Stable would have 2.3.0 or 2.3.1, QGIS 1.5(Could be upgraded after we
> >> know 1.6 is safe)
> >> Testing would also have 2.3.1, QGIS 1.6
> >> Unstable would have 2.4 RC x
> >> 
> >> That way in testing there would be a nice reliable set of QGIS, gdal,
> >> spatialite etc that are known to be fairly good and unstable would have
> >> more cutting edge stuff. I realize maverick included spatialite 2.4RC
> >> and think that may have actually been a mistake since the author admits
> >> it's a bit buggy (not to say 2.3.x series doesn't have it's issues). But
> >> more importantly some underlying changes could cause issues for QGIS,
> >> GeoDjango etc. In summary having some slightly older version no longer
> >> available in Debian or Ubuntu might actually be a + to the everyday user
> >> if the distro jumps the gun on an app(in stable of course).
> >> 
> >> This needs a little fine tuning obviously since GRASS tends to have
> >> really long release cycles and maybe could be summed as the "testing"
> >> ppa has the last known stable release.
> >> 
> >> Any thoughts?
> >> 
> >> Thanks,
> >> Alex
> >> 
> >> PS: I'm more than willing to help package, just still new at it. Looks
> >> like gpsprune for Lucid worked and I would love to have that copied to
> >> ubuntugis.
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Alan Boudreault
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