[Ubuntu] Google Summer of Code for OSGeo-Live/UbuntuGIS/DebianGIS?

Sun Feb 9 11:52:26 PST 2014

I think there are already many packaging guides out there, and if
packaging guides are missing it should be up to debian/ubuntu soc
projects to create them, I don't think this is something osgeo should
do. And in fact with dh, dh_make and a proper upstream (which is what
matters) packaging really is very automated. The real problem is that
upstream is often not 'proper´.

So ideally, we would have someone who can help pushing upstream to
become 'proper'. I think this is a role osgeo can play. to give an
example of what I mean see eg the comments I once made about mapguide:
http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/ubuntu/2010-April/000190.html
Eg for java packages he/she could first start by listing which
dependencies there are. If dependencies are on specific versions he
should try to find out whether this is really necessary and advise the
projects to do things differently. I'd also be looking at the future,
working on the latest git/svn versions of packages rather than trying
to build the released versions, so changes are picked up in the new
versions rather than seperately in eg debian gis.
If people now say that some java packages are hard to package properly
on debian it is partly because we don't have a list of all the issues
and nobody who really had time to compile such a list. Once such a
list is made different people with different skills can act on them.
Somebody in debian may have easy solutions for some issues, while some
things may be easy to fix for upstream if they realize that something
is a problem.

Johan

On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 9:00 PM, Alan Boudreault
<boudreault.alan at gmail.com> wrote:
> Note that Jerome already wrote a few packaging tutorials.
>
> http://trac.osgeo.org/ubuntugis/#Packagers
>
> I agree that a lot more could be done... but it's hard to write automated
> scripts for packaging. The packages often differ.
>
> Alan
>
>
> On 14-02-07 02:47 PM, Alex Mandel wrote:
>
> Really this idea is a continuation of Jerome's work last year. For me
> what we didn't get last year that I think would be really helpful,
> "guide to packaging for mere mortals", not necessarily from scratch but
> easy to follow steps to update packages when new releases come out.
> Maybe even some scripts to automate the build dep rebuild issue where
> when say when gdal updates all sorts of things built on in it need to be
> rebuilt in certain order so that everyone benefits.
>
> After that pursuing tools and work flows to increase packaging of stuff
> that isn't packaged seems relevant, in particular the outstanding java
> issue.
>
> Thanks,
> Alex
>
>
> On 02/07/2014 11:39 AM, Cameron Shorter wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> I'm wondering whether we should put forward a
> "debiangis/ubuntugis/osgeolive packaging" idea as a Google Summer of
> Code project?
>
> In particular, I could see the focus would be on packaging of java
> packages, which to date have been difficult. It would involve
> researching best practices, providing recommendations based upon
> research, liaising with projects and packaging communities, and
> implementing the packaging.
>
> I reckon it would be hugely valuable, and also a great stretch task for
> a student.
>
> Thoughts?
> Anyone wish to volunteer as a mentor?
>
> Any other projects?
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject:     [OSGeo-Edu] OSGeo Google Summer of Code 2014 - ideas needed!
> Date:     Thu, 6 Feb 2014 22:34:09 +0100
> From:     Anne Ghisla <a.ghisla at gmail.com>
> To:     OSGeo Google Summer of Code list <soc at lists.osgeo.org>, OSGeo
> Discuss list <discuss at lists.osgeo.org>, OSGeo Education List
> <edu_discuss at lists.osgeo.org>, ICA OSGeo Labs list
> <ica-osgeo-labs at lists.osgeo.org>, OSGeo Local Chapters
> <local-chapters at lists.osgeo.org>
>
>
>
> Hello all, and sorry for cross posting,
>
> this year, Google Summer of Code starts earlier than usual: the
> applications for mentoring organisations are already open, and will
> close on February 14th.
>
> For who is new to Summer of Code, it is a global program that offers
> students stipends to write code for open source projects. See more at
> http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/homepage/google/gsoc2014
>
> OSGeo is going to apply for GSoC 2014, and the first task is to set up
> Ideas pages for all projects, before February, 14th. It is a little
> more than a week!
>
> The Ideas page is being built here, and shall contain links to all
> the geospatial projects involved:
> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Google_Summer_of_Code_2014_Ideas
> The links from past year are commented in the wiki page. If you have
> trouble editing the wiki let me or Hamish know.
>
> I encourage developers, teachers and students to start working on ideas
> for GSoC and populate the Ideas pages of the related project.
> Please forward this mail, or the link to OSGeo GSoC wiki pages, to all
> the interested people and projects.
>
> If you have questions, please send a mail to the dedicated mailing list
> soc at lists.osgeo.org .
>
> Thanks everyone in advance for your contribution to the Ideas pages -
> let's do our best to get OSGeo accepted in GSoC 2014!
>
> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Google_Summer_of_Code_2014
>
> Best regards,
>
> Anne and Hamish
> OSGeo GSoC Admins
>
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