[Ubuntu] Stable update

[Worth Lutz]

I've got customers with servers running Ubuntu 10.04 and 12.04.

Older LTS versions of Ubuntu need access to the updates to GIS packages. 
As fixes and improvements get added, how will this be reflected in 
UbuntuGIS?

I do not understand the process of how the Ubuntu packages get updated. 
In the past I've used UbuntuGis-unstable to get updated versions of 
MapServer which have fixes I needed to run on production servers.

I think a defined policy of what is included in Stable, Unstable and 
Testing/Experimental is important.

Thanks to all who are working to keep UbuntuGis up to date!

*Worth Lutz*


On 4/25/2016 9:15 PM, Alex Mandel wrote:
> On 04/25/2016 01:59 PM, Angelos Tzotsos wrote:
>> On 04/25/2016 11:45 PM, Johan Van de Wauw wrote:
>>> On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 10:04 PM, Alex M <tech_dev at wildintellect.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Historically we haven't done a great job of keeping stable very
>>>> relevant, but people running servers in production really ought to be
>>>> using it and not unstable. Maybe a clearer policy on when things should
>>>> move to stable needs to be made (it is ok for some packages to be the
>>>> same version as unstable).
>>> With quite DebianGIS quite up-to-date, Ubuntu already has rather
>>> recent versions of most packages. I think stable becomes perhaps even
>>> less relevant. For non-LTS releases I think we should not use it
>>> (well, never say never). For LTS releases, I think the policy of
>>> copying whatever gets on OSGeo live after the release is quite a good
>>> policy. It gets a lot of testing.
>>>
>>> Kind Regards,
>>> Johan
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>> +1 to rename testing to experimental. Actually I have started building
>> everything based on gdal 2.0 there already.
>> Also, +1 for a policy to copy everything from OSGeoLive after release.
>>
>> Best,
>> Angelos
>>
> Only latest Ubuntu has recent versions of most packages.
> 12.04 and 14.04 actually have fairly old packages at this point but are
> still in wide use and will be for another 1,3 years respectively.
>
> UbuntuGIS stable is moot for Xenial but very important to Trusty. If
> someone needs to stick to QGIS 2.8 and GDAL 1.11.x stable is where they
> should be able to get that. In 6 months to a year stable will actually
> become important for Xenial too since QGIS 2.14 will be the LTS and
> should move to stable, with 2.16 and the upcoming 3.x series going to
> unstable...
>
> +1 to copying packages from osgeo-live, however we shouldn't let that
> timetable keep us from updating unstable whenever new releases come out.
>
> As I've said before in the past, if we can create simpler instructions
> for all the easyish packages, there are more volunteers who would gladly
> help keep packages flowing. I suppose we should make a list of who
> generally upkeeps which packages.
>
> Thanks,
> Alex
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