<div dir="ltr">I'm in favor of removing testing and adding "experimental" instead.<div><br></div><div>This is closer to the actual way we use the ppa.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 3:19 PM, Randal Hale <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rjhale@northrivergeographic.com" target="_blank">rjhale@northrivergeographic.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">from my perspective it should be (which will completely break policy on several fronts)<br>
<br>
Testing/unstable -> Fresh/Stable/Current -> Older Releases.<br>
<br>
I don't know how the naming would need to be. I hesitate to suggest because I'm advocating breaking with a standard on Two different Distros. I apologize in Advance.<br>
<br>
Randy<div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><br>
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On 09/16/2016 08:57 AM, Daniel Morissette wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Hi Martin,<br>
<br>
Little clarification for the non-expert lurkers like myself, are you suggesting that the naming order should be as follows?<br>
<br>
unstable --> testing --> stable<br>
<br>
... which would match the Debian policy found here:<br>
<br>
<a href="https://www.debian.org/releases/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.debian.org/releas<wbr>es/</a><br>
<br>
Daniel<br>
<br>
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On 2016-09-16 8:37 AM, Martin Landa wrote:<br>
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Hi,<br>
<br>
I took liberty to forward opinion about PPA naming from GRASS ML. The<br>
name for unstable PPA is simply confusing (moreover with combination<br>
of testing PPA used for experimental packages - especially for Debian<br>
users). Could be that I missed discussion about PPA naming, anyway<br>
current names do not respect real usage of PPAs in my eyes.<br>
<br>
And I want to express again big thanks (especially to Angelos) for<br>
making ubuntugis project alive! Martin<br>
<br>
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Date: 2016-09-16 13:12 GMT+02:00<br>
Subject: RE: [GRASS-dev] ubuntu gis policy<br>
To: Martin Landa <<a href="mailto:landa.martin@gmail.com" target="_blank">landa.martin@gmail.com</a>>, GRASS developers list<br>
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Hei Martin,<br>
<br>
Do you have any chance to influence the naming of the PPAs?<br>
<br>
As recently also discussed on the QGIS mailinglist, packages from a<br>
repository named "unstable" can get blocked by system administrators<br>
(who not necessarily will take the time to try to understand what is<br>
behind all applications), regardless if I as a user tell them that<br>
"unstable" actually means "current release"...<br>
<br>
Would be nice to have a more admin-friendly name there...<br>
<br>
Cheers<br>
Stefan<br>
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Subject: [GRASS-dev] ubuntu gis policy<br>
<br>
Hi all,<br>
<br>
recently ubuntugis maintainers changed their policy. This means that<br>
currently is used this workflow:<br>
<br>
OSGeoLive nightly --> UbuntuGIS Testing --> UbuntuGIS Unstable --><br>
UbuntuGIS Stable<br>
<br>
What does it means for GRASS?<br>
<br>
1) experimental packages (like Release Candidates) are uploaded to<br>
Testing PPA [1]<br>
2) final version packages are uploaded to Testing and Unstable [2]<br>
3) Stable PPA can contain older version [3]<br>
<br>
For user who want to help with testing experimental packages: please<br>
use Testing PPA otherwise use Unstable (if you prefer up-to-date<br>
version) or Stable PPA (you prefer stability - slightly older versions).<br>
<br>
Martin<br>
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[1] <a href="https://launchpad.net/~ubuntugis/+archive/ubuntu/ubuntugis-testing" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://launchpad.net/~ubuntug<wbr>is/+archive/ubuntu/ubuntugis-<wbr>testing</a><br>
[2] <a href="https://launchpad.net/~ubuntugis/+archive/ubuntu/ubuntugis-unstable" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://launchpad.net/~ubuntug<wbr>is/+archive/ubuntu/ubuntugis-<wbr>unstable</a><br>
[3] <a href="https://launchpad.net/~ubuntugis/+archive/ubuntu/ppa" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://launchpad.net/~ubuntug<wbr>is/+archive/ubuntu/ppa</a><br>
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