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Subject: Re: [Ubuntu] Fwd: [GRASS-dev] ubuntu gis policy
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 09:08:33 -0400
To: Ubuntu
From: Randal Hale</div>
<blockquote
cite="mid:a8d5227a-7568-320c-3902-661cfc1700a6@northrivergeographic.com"
type="cite">I'm one of the guys who was commenting on the
confusion. Someone commented that the naming is in keeping with
Ubuntu policy. Which probably for the Sys Admin crowd is perfect.
We've got a weird blend of Users who want software BUT (and I
didn't up until this last thread) understand the reasoning behind
the naming. It is confusing. I don't know if something on the PPA
explaining it is warranted OR a name change OR something on the
package websites.
<br>
<br>
</blockquote>
I'd suggest this: (clearest to me, and does not break the known
Debian chain)<br>
<br>
"Experimental" (=Debian testing) --> "Current" (=Debian unstable)
--> "Legacy" (=Debian stable)<br>
<br>
<blockquote
cite="mid:a8d5227a-7568-320c-3902-661cfc1700a6@northrivergeographic.com"
type="cite">Anyway - Yes - 500 Cheers for Angelos and everyone
else involved in keeping this alive.
<br>
<br>
Randy
<br>
<br>
On 09/16/2016 08:37 AM, Martin Landa wrote:
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">Hi,
<br>
<br>
I took liberty to forward opinion about PPA naming from GRASS
ML. The
<br>
name for unstable PPA is simply confusing (moreover with
combination
<br>
of testing PPA used for experimental packages - especially for
Debian
<br>
users). Could be that I missed discussion about PPA naming,
anyway
<br>
current names do not respect real usage of PPAs in my eyes.
<br>
<br>
And I want to express again big thanks (especially to Angelos)
for
<br>
making ubuntugis project alive! Martin
<br>
<br>
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From: Blumentrath, Stefan <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:Stefan.Blumentrath@nina.no"><Stefan.Blumentrath@nina.no></a>
<br>
Date: 2016-09-16 13:12 GMT+02:00
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Subject: RE: [GRASS-dev] ubuntu gis policy
<br>
To: Martin Landa <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:landa.martin@gmail.com"><landa.martin@gmail.com></a>, GRASS
developers list
<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org"><grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org></a>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Hei Martin,
<br>
<br>
Do you have any chance to influence the naming of the PPAs?
<br>
<br>
As recently also discussed on the QGIS mailinglist, packages
from a
<br>
repository named "unstable" can get blocked by system
administrators
<br>
(who not necessarily will take the time to try to understand
what is
<br>
behind all applications), regardless if I as a user tell them
that
<br>
"unstable" actually means "current release"...
<br>
<br>
Would be nice to have a more admin-friendly name there...
<br>
<br>
Cheers
<br>
Stefan
<br>
<br>
-----Original Message-----
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From: grass-dev [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:grass-dev-bounces@lists.osgeo.org">mailto:grass-dev-bounces@lists.osgeo.org</a>] On
Behalf
<br>
Of Martin Landa
<br>
Sent: 16. september 2016 13:03
<br>
To: GRASS users list <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:grass-user@lists.osgeo.org"><grass-user@lists.osgeo.org></a>; GRASS
developers
<br>
list <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org"><grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org></a>
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Subject: [GRASS-dev] ubuntu gis policy
<br>
<br>
Hi all,
<br>
<br>
recently ubuntugis maintainers changed their policy. This means
that
<br>
currently is used this workflow:
<br>
<br>
OSGeoLive nightly --> UbuntuGIS Testing --> UbuntuGIS
Unstable -->
<br>
UbuntuGIS Stable
<br>
<br>
What does it means for GRASS?
<br>
<br>
1) experimental packages (like Release Candidates) are uploaded
to
<br>
Testing PPA [1]
<br>
2) final version packages are uploaded to Testing and Unstable
[2]
<br>
3) Stable PPA can contain older version [3]
<br>
<br>
For user who want to help with testing experimental packages:
please
<br>
use Testing PPA otherwise use Unstable (if you prefer up-to-date
<br>
version) or Stable PPA (you prefer stability - slightly older
versions).
<br>
<br>
Martin
<br>
<br>
[1]
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://launchpad.net/~ubuntugis/+archive/ubuntu/ubuntugis-testing">https://launchpad.net/~ubuntugis/+archive/ubuntu/ubuntugis-testing</a>
<br>
[2]
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://launchpad.net/~ubuntugis/+archive/ubuntu/ubuntugis-unstable">https://launchpad.net/~ubuntugis/+archive/ubuntu/ubuntugis-unstable</a>
<br>
[3] <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://launchpad.net/~ubuntugis/+archive/ubuntu/ppa">https://launchpad.net/~ubuntugis/+archive/ubuntu/ppa</a>
<br>
<br>
--
<br>
Martin Landa
<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://geo.fsv.cvut.cz/gwiki/Landa">http://geo.fsv.cvut.cz/gwiki/Landa</a>
<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://gismentors.cz/mentors/landa">http://gismentors.cz/mentors/landa</a>
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