[OSGeo Africa] Looking for crop production data for the Eastern Cape per municipality
Chris
chris at airphotoafrica.co.za
Wed Jan 23 01:55:11 PST 2013
Hi Luxon ,
Forgive me for once again posting here on the open forum. My previous
mail seems to have offended some -- so in reply and to keep the debate
open here goes......
You do not make clear to what extent your study and your request for --
crop-production data is tied in to water management ( Yes we know rain
and water is the farmers best friend without which nothing can grow ) But
I would think that agriculture in this part of South Africa would not
represent a good case model for this type of study / research -- but then
I am not an agricultualist. ( or a Hydrologist or a Meteorologist )
It would appear to me that you should really be talking to DWAF ( Water
Affairs ) as well as the Weather Bureau. I am reading between the lines
here but climate change is all the buzz word these days ( they dropped
Global Warming -- I wonder why ? )
The Eastern Cape does go through cycles of drought -- but I would have
thought that in terms of Agriculture in these areas Water Management as
an input to "agriculture" would be overshadowed by so many other
pressing priorities -- as evidenced in the papers at UCT that I linked
to. I am also inclined to thnk -- as I mentioned in my earlier mail that
it will prove very difficult to obtain accurate figuires for these areas -
- compartmentalised as you request.
But -- I have often been proven wrong.
Please do let us know how your study progresses. Once issues have been
quantified and qualified through rigorous research then answers may be
within reach.
CM
On 23 Jan 2013 at 9:16, Nhamo, Luxon (IWMI-South Africa) wrote:
> I work for the International Water Management Institute (IWMI), one of the
> 15 institutes of the Consultative Group on International Agriculture
> Research (CGIAR). We do research and my institute specialises on the
> importance/use of water in agriculture. We are accredited to the SA
> government and have a diplomatic status as we are an international
> organisation (you can visit our website at www.iwmi.org ). The IWMI
> regional office in Pretoria (housed at the ARC offices in Silverton) does
> research in the SADC region. The data I requested is purely for research
> purposes. We are doing a similar study for the whole of SADC (you can
> visit www.resakss.org/) But the data we have is at national level. I know
> the data is there somewhere. I have been receiving some helpful responses
> from members of the forum (to my personal email address). I provided my
> personal email address in my original correspondence, I therefore suggest
> that if members have personal questions send such to private emails not to
> the whole group because we end up scaring other members. Data may be
> classified or may not be available for free but this can be said openly.
>
> Luxon
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: africa-bounces at lists.osgeo.org
> [mailto:africa-bounces at lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Chris Sent: 23
> January 2013 10:20 AM To: Africa local chapter discussions Subject: Re:
> [OSGeo Africa] Looking for crop production data for the Eastern Cape per
> municipality
>
>
> No Offence -- but -- has the OP been to the Eastern Cape within whose
> boundaries the old Transkei / Ciskei are contained ? Does he have any
> idea of the import of his "simple" request ?
>
> May we ask what the information is needed for ?
>
> In that old bantustan agriculture was run on a communal
> self-subsistence level. I very much doubt if any records were kept of
> what could have been very little or no crop production -- in an
> agricultural sense. I remember thousands and thousands of plastic bags
> decorating the fences alongside the road. There was a commercial crop
> but one would have to check with the guys down Lusikisiki way and the
> "Hippies" at Port St Johns. I wonder if any of the old Bantustan depts
> would have kept records ? If they did where would these be now ?
>
> There well may be records for the "other" parts of the Eastern Cape
> where commercial ariculture was carried out.
>
> I would think that in these areas there would have been Farmers
> organisations and probabaly a formal agricultural dept -- which quite
> possibly did keep records. Eastern Cape Farmers Association -- or
> something similar -- AgriSA ( the "enemy" )
>
> You may have better luck with the people at PLAAS at UWC
>
> http://www.plaas.org.za
>
> ( IF I am not mistaken one of their opening page images is of the
> Eastern Cape ? )
>
> For some background you could read Beinert , Bundy , Bunting , Trapido
> , Delius.
>
> African Studies Centre Oxford
>
> Centre for African Studies UCT
>
>
> I could find all the info for you -- but who is going to pay for my
> time ?
>
>
> CM
>
>
>
> On 23 Jan 2013 at 9:22, Solly Vuso wrote:
>
> > are you aware that 98% of land in the EC is owned by communities and
> > private farms , am trying to come up with the solution on how you can
> > get this information but for now nothing comes out of my mind, may be if
> > you can try AgriSA
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 9:12 AM, Nhamo, Luxon (IWMI-South Africa) <
> > L.Nhamo at cgiar.org> wrote:
> >
> > > By crop production I am referring to acreage, area harvested and
> > > yield. *
> > > ***
> > >
> > > ** **
> > >
> > > *From:* africa-bounces at lists.osgeo.org [mailto:
> > > africa-bounces at lists.osgeo.org] *On Behalf Of *Solly Vuso
> > > *Sent:* 23 January 2013 09:04 AM
> > >
> > > *To:* Africa local chapter discussions
> > > *Subject:* Re: [OSGeo Africa] Looking for crop production data for the
> > > Eastern Cape per municipality****
> > >
> > > ** **
> > >
> > > Ho****
> > >
> > > ** **
> > >
> > > What do u mean by crop production ****
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 1:33 PM, Nhamo, Luxon (IWMI-South Africa) <
> > > L.Nhamo at cgiar.org> wrote:****
> > >
> > > Dear all****
> > >
> > > ****
> > >
> > > I am looking for crop production data per annum per municipality of
> > > the Eastern Cape for the past 20-30years in time series. Does anyone
> > > know where I can get this data?****
> > >
> > > ****
> > >
> > > Regards,****
> > >
> > > ****
> > >
> > > *Luxon T. Nhamo** **(PhD)*****
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> > Solly Vuso
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