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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 10 December 2012 08:58 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Vusi Masuku; Africa local
chapter discussions; Africa local chapter discussions<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [OSGeo Africa] 2013
GIS short courses through ContinuedEducation at <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceType
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> Vusi Masuku
<halazamasuku@yahoo.com><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Africa local chapter
discussions <africa@lists.osgeo.org> <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, December 10, 2012
8:52 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [OSGeo Africa] 2013
GIS short courses through Continued Education at <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceType
w:st="on">University</st1:PlaceType> of <st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Pretoria</st1:PlaceName></st1:place></span></font><font
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style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Console";color:black'>In line with
your comments below, is there online GIS "generic" course - perhaps
free - that you would recommend.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> Gavin Fleming
<gavinjfleming@gmail.com><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> africa@lists.osgeo.org <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, November 20, 2012
1:51 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [OSGeo Africa] 2013
GIS short courses through Continued Education at <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceType
w:st="on">University</st1:PlaceType> of <st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Pretoria</st1:PlaceName></st1:place></span></font><font
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Good comment Chris<br>
<br>
These UP courses focus on the theory and practice of GIS, not on a <br>
particular brand of software.<br>
<br>
So while an ESRI course might cover some theory, it is mainly about how <br>
to use ESRI software.<br>
<br>
An ESRI certification means something to an employer wanting an ESRI <br>
software expert.<br>
<br>
The international QGIS community is developing a similar type of <br>
certification for QGIS. So for employers who ask for a 'QGIS expert', <br>
one would show a QGIS certificate.<br>
<br>
A UP or equivalent 'academic' certificate means something to an employer <br>
wanting a GIS expert, or expertise in a specific GIS field.<br>
<br>
For instance, an employer asks for a 'spatial database expert' - you <br>
show them the 'academic' course certificate. It shows you've covered the <br>
generic theory and application of spatial databases. The course just <br>
happens to have used PostGIS for the sake of practical software to use <br>
in the course and because FOSS leaves your options open (and because a <br>
university should be brand-neutral).<br>
<br>
For training towards professional registration, a 'generic, academic' <br>
course is likely to tick more of the accreditation boxes, since the <br>
profession is about the theory and practice, not the software.<br>
<br>
Gavin<br>
<br>
On 20/11/2012 12:45, Chris wrote:<br>
> Just had a chance to look at these now<br>
><br>
> Really looks good<br>
><br>
> I did have a question though ( not intended to become
a bun fight but<br>
> really asking for some informed opinion )<br>
><br>
> I notice that the UP courses are going to set the
budget back a bit<br>
> ( OK -- education is an investment and the courses are
within the ball<br>
> park for this type of educational program )<br>
><br>
> However .........<br>
><br>
> ESRI now have their own certification program.<br>
><br>
> One can attend ESRI courses ( not inexpensive )<br>
> or<br>
> One can obtain the recommended course material for
self-study and then<br>
> just go and sit the exam. ( about the most cost
effective method of<br>
> getting a GIS certification ? ) ESRI have extensive
free online help.<br>
><br>
> Perhaps someone could explain the relative
"weights" each type of<br>
> certification would hold in the work place ? I
assume ESRi being ESRI<br>
> this would be a globally recognised certification ?<br>
><br>
> Your thoughts appreciated<br>
><br>
><br>
> CM<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> On 16 Nov 2012 at 17:24, Coetzee Serena wrote:<br>
><br>
>> 2013 GIS short courses through Continued Education at University of<br>
>> <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Pretoria</st1:place></st1:City>
(<a href="http://www.ceatup.com/" target="_blank">www.ceatup.com</a>)<br>
>> ================================================<br>
> <br>
>> 1. Certificate Course in Introductory Geographic Information Systems<br>
>> February - June 2013 Web-based with workshops in <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Pretoria</st1:place></st1:City> (proprietary<br>
>> and open source) and <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Cape Town</st1:place></st1:City>
(open source only)<br>
> <br>
>> 2. Certificate Course in Advanced Geographic Information Systems<br>
>> February - October 2013<br>
>> Web-based learning with workshops in <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Pretoria</st1:place></st1:City><br>
> <br>
>> 3. GIS Professional Practice<br>
>> February - June 2013<br>
>> Distance learning with workshops in <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Pretoria</st1:place></st1:City><br>
> <br>
>> 4. Introduction to Geoinformation Standards<br>
>> 15 - 16 July 2013 in <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Pretoria</st1:place></st1:City><br>
> <br>
>> 5. Spatial databases with PostGIS<br>
>> 25 - 29 March 2013 in <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Pretoria</st1:place></st1:City><br>
> <br>
>> 6. Introduction to Quantum GIS (on request)<br>
>> 7. Remote Sensing (on request)<br>
>> 8. The Basics of GIS (on request)<br>
> <br>
>> For more information, visit <a href="http://www.up.ac.za/cgis,"
target="_blank">www.up.ac.za/cgis,</a> click on 'Professional<br>
>> development' or<br>
>> http://web.up.ac.za/default.asp?ipkCategoryID=16147&subid=16147&ipklooki<br>
>> d=11<br>
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