<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Hi<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Also consider that some countries (e.g. UK) use a false easting and northing so that the CRS origin starts from 0,0 just outside the sovereign territory….</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Regards</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Tim<br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 12 Jul 2019, at 08:11, Zoltan Szecsei <<a href="mailto:zoltans@geograph.co.za" class="">zoltans@geograph.co.za</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="">
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<font face="Arial" class="">Hmmm....Ja.</font><br class="">
<font face="Arial" class="">But querying the source of the data might save
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">You mention
500k makes me think there could be a UTM transformation which
usully adds a 500000m easting or westing and 10 000 000m
northing to avoid negative numbers.</div>
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me the shapefile.</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Jul 12, 2019 at 8:57
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" class=""> <font face="Arial" class="">Hi Manie,</font><br class="">
<font face="Arial" class="">Thanks for the idea.<br class="">
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<font face="Arial" class="">The current system in use is QND95 - the
one you are suggesting (I see) is from 1976, and its
origin is "too close".</font><br class="">
<font face="Arial" class="">(Yes, I still tried it)<br class="">
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<font face="Arial" class="">Looking at the numeric values of the
coords, I am expecting something with an origin some 500Km
West of Doha, and on the Equator.</font><font face="Arial" class=""><br class="">
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<font face="Arial" class="">And then of course I also need to
consider the possibility that the coords in the shapefile
are non-sensical, so </font><font face="Arial" class="">I'm trying
to find out its source....</font><br class="">
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<font face="Arial" class="">Thanks and keep well,</font><br class="">
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at 6:33 PM Zoltan Szecsei <<a href="mailto:zoltans@geograph.co.za" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="">zoltans@geograph.co.za</a>>
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" class=""> <font face="Arial" class="">Hi
Listers,</font><br class="">
<font face="Arial" class="">I've been asked o help a
school-going daughter of a friend of mine in Doha
(yes, this is "AfricaList" :-/ )</font><br class="">
<font face="Arial" class="">She has been given a shapefile
without a projection file. The area is Al Wakrah,
just South of Doha airport.<br class="">
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<font face="Arial" class="">The numeric values of the
geometry coords are around 560000, 2782000 - the
second value looked like a distance from the
Equator, so I tried UTM 39N</font><br class="">
<font face="Arial" class="">The scaling seems wrong, and it
does not align with the coastline (QND95)
shapefile I have.<br class="">
</font>(I also tried EPSG:27039)<br class="">
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<font face="Arial" class="">As you can see,
projection-sleuthing is not one of my strengths.</font><br class="">
<font face="Arial" class="">Can anyone point me in a
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font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; margin: 0px; line-height: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class=""><b class="">Skype</b>: timlinux </div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: center; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: initial; text-decoration: none; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; margin: 0px; line-height: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class=""><b class="">IRC:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>timlinux on #qgis at <a href="http://freenode.net" class="">freenode.net</a></div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: center; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: initial; text-decoration: none; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; margin: 0px; line-height: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: center; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: initial; text-decoration: none; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; margin: 0px; line-height: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(102, 106, 115); color: rgb(102, 106, 115); font-family: "Proxima Nova", sans-serif; font-size: 14px; text-align: left; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="">I'd love to connect. </span><a target="_blank" class="t-quick-start-share-link" href="https://calendly.com/timlinux" style="color: rgb(0, 162, 255); text-decoration: none; cursor: pointer; font-family: "Proxima Nova", sans-serif; font-size: 14px; text-align: left;">Here's my calendar link</a><span style="caret-color: rgb(102, 106, 115); color: rgb(102, 106, 115); font-family: "Proxima Nova", sans-serif; font-size: 14px; text-align: left; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""> to make finding time easy.</span></div>
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