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I totally agree with you, what I do not understand is that
the complaint is only related to Esri related tenders. Yet
there is a tender at SANRAL that mentions another service
provider yet the is no complaint about it on this forum.
So now this begs the question, is it a sole attack on
Esri? If so why? <br>
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<p>I do not think this is sorely an attack on Esri but since they
are enjoying the biggest slice of the cake they get mentioned a
lot. It's just the nature of life. The same principle applies to
open source GIS desktop software when people refer to QGIS it
doesn't mean it's the only viable option there. Because it is more
popular it will be used as a reference point.<br>
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Even if they are not implementing a system from scratch I think it
would still be viable to use an open-source package and some of
the money that could have been used for licenses would be
transferred to train the staff and other relates task i.e
(documentation, update features in software). Projects like QGIS
are where they are right now because some organizations and
municipalities that have taken the initiative to dig into the
open-source world irrespective of their prior engagements with
proprietary software.<br>
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Open Source GIS always gets flake for lack of support but if you
read
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.qgis.org/en/site/forusers/commercial_support.html">https://www.qgis.org/en/site/forusers/commercial_support.html</a> you
can see that there are a lot of companies offering QGIS Support.<br>
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For the database, you can read the
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://themagiscian.com/2016/11/21/the-simple-and-free-postgis-vs-the-complex-and-expensive-oracle-spatial/">http://themagiscian.com/2016/11/21/the-simple-and-free-postgis-vs-the-complex-and-expensive-oracle-spatial/</a>.
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For a comparison of GIS, Servers read
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.digital-geography.com/arcgis-server-vs-open-source-gis-solutions">http://www.digital-geography.com/arcgis-server-vs-open-source-gis-solutions</a><br>
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For a comparison of GIS Desktop solutions
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://gisgeography.com/qgis-arcgis-differences">https://gisgeography.com/qgis-arcgis-differences</a>.</p>
<p>The above links showcase that Open Source is well capable of
handling the tasks already being done by other proprietary
software. I think the initial message was just to reiterate that
these tenders are not fair and are exclusionary. GIS should be
more about the processes rather than the software and if the
current software follows industry standards ( i.e
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.opengeospatial.org/standards">https://www.opengeospatial.org/standards</a>) then it should not be
difficult to migrate from one setup to the other.</p>
<p>Regards<br>
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<div id="divRplyFwdMsg"><strong>From:</strong> Africa
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Abraham Parbhunath <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:ParbhuA@eskom.co.za"><ParbhuA@eskom.co.za></a><br>
<strong>Sent:</strong> Wednesday, 16 October 2019, 22:25<br>
<strong>To:</strong> Africa local chapter discussions<br>
<strong>Subject:</strong> Re: [OSGeo Africa] Another
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<div class="PlainText">I'm not sure if I fully agree
with you. Yes, if they were implementing a system
from scratch then this is not 'kosher'. However if
you already have an implemented system, have
invested money and training on your staff, maybe
even automated some processes and you just need to
procure a few more licences and support, then this
is definitely not illegal. There are many smaller
resellers who earn a living from responding to these
kind of tenders.<br>
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Abraham Parbhunath<br>
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From: Africa <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:africa-bounces@lists.osgeo.org"><africa-bounces@lists.osgeo.org></a>
On Behalf Of Gavin Fleming<br>
Sent: Wednesday, 16 October 2019 21:37<br>
To: Africa local chapter discussions
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Subject: [OSGeo Africa] Another illegal GIS RfQ<br>
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this time, Umungundlovu DM not even trying to hide
names.<br>
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Government entities are not allowed to simply renew
contracts like these ELAs. They have to go out to
*open* tender to test the market for alternative
solutions and lower prices.<br>
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<a
href="http://www.umdm.gov.za/Official_Site/index.php/quotations/req02148-2019-supply-enviromental-systems-research-institute-esri-licensing-maintenance-renewal-from-november-2019-to-november-2020/download"
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Now how many firms can compete for this one?<br>
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