<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Ori please share the SANRAL one - this list is focussed on GIS so if it’s about GIS, we’re interested. <div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">We’re not attacking any product. Just trying to get government to procure properly, legally and fairly, and to follow policy to migrate to FOSS.<br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 18 Oct 2019, at 09:47, oripfa sigidane <<a href="mailto:oriee@live.com" class="">oriee@live.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" text-align="left" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><div dir="ltr" text-align="left" class=""><div dir="ltr" text-align="left" class=""><div dir="ltr" style="color: rgb(33, 33, 33); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: left;" class="">Abraham, </div><div dir="ltr" style="color: rgb(33, 33, 33); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: left;" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="ltr" style="color: rgb(33, 33, 33); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: left;" class="">I totally agree with you, what I do not understand is that the complaint is only related to Esri related tenders. Yet there is a tender at SANRAL that mentions another service provider yet the is no complaint about it on this forum. So now this begs the question, is it a sole attack on Esri? If so why? </div><div dir="ltr" style="color: rgb(33, 33, 33); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: left;" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="ltr" style="color: rgb(33, 33, 33); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: left;" class="">Regards </div><div dir="ltr" style="color: rgb(33, 33, 33); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: left;" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="ltr" style="color: rgb(33, 33, 33); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: left;" class="">Ori</div><div dir="ltr" style="color: rgb(33, 33, 33); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: left;" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="ltr" style="color: rgb(33, 33, 33); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: left;" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="ltr" style="color: rgb(33, 33, 33); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: left;" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="ltr" style="color: rgb(33, 33, 33); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: left;" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="ltr" style="color: rgb(33, 33, 33); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: left;" class=""><br class=""></div><div id="ms-outlook-mobile-signature" class=""><div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" class=""><br class=""></div>Get<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://aka.ms/ghei36" class="">Outlook for Android</a></div><div id="id-59a67191-ffbb-4b54-b2f3-ebb027ca9622" class="ms-outlook-mobile-reference-message"><div style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" class=""><br class=""></div><hr tabindex="-1" style="display: inline-block; width: 1079.953125px;" class=""><div id="divRplyFwdMsg" class=""><strong class="">From:</strong><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Africa <<a href="mailto:africa-bounces@lists.osgeo.org" class="">africa-bounces@lists.osgeo.org</a>> on behalf of Abraham Parbhunath <<a href="mailto:ParbhuA@eskom.co.za" class="">ParbhuA@eskom.co.za</a>><br class=""><strong class="">Sent:</strong><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Wednesday, 16 October 2019, 22:25<br class=""><strong class="">To:</strong><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Africa local chapter discussions<br class=""><strong class="">Subject:</strong><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [OSGeo Africa] Another illegal GIS RfQ<br class=""></div><br class=""><font size="2" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class=""><div class="PlainText">I'm not sure if I fully agree with you. Yes, if they were implementing a system from scratch then this is not 'kosher'. However if you already have an implemented system, have invested money and training on your staff, maybe even automated some processes and you just need to procure a few more licences and support, then this is definitely not illegal. There are many smaller resellers who earn a living from responding to these kind of tenders.<br class=""><br class="">Regards<br class="">Abraham Parbhunath<br class=""><br class="">-----Original Message-----<br class="">From: Africa <<a href="mailto:africa-bounces@lists.osgeo.org" class="">africa-bounces@lists.osgeo.org</a>> On Behalf Of Gavin Fleming<br class="">Sent: Wednesday, 16 October 2019 21:37<br class="">To: Africa local chapter discussions <<a href="mailto:africa@lists.osgeo.org" class="">africa@lists.osgeo.org</a>><br class="">Subject: [OSGeo Africa] Another illegal GIS RfQ<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">this time, Umungundlovu DM not even trying to hide names.<br class=""><br class="">Government entities are not allowed to simply renew contracts like these ELAs. They have to go out to *open* tender to test the market for alternative solutions and lower prices.<br class=""><br class=""><a href="http://www.umdm.gov.za/Official_Site/index.php/quotations/req02148-2019-supply-enviromental-systems-research-institute-esri-licensing-maintenance-renewal-from-november-2019-to-november-2020/download" class="">http://www.umdm.gov.za/Official_Site/index.php/quotations/req02148-2019-supply-enviromental-systems-research-institute-esri-licensing-maintenance-renewal-from-november-2019-to-november-2020/download</a><br class=""><br class="">Now how many firms can compete for this one?<br class=""><br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">Africa mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:Africa@lists.osgeo.org" class="">Africa@lists.osgeo.org</a><br class="">You can UNSUBSCRIBE at<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/africa" class="">https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/africa</a><br class="">NB: This Email and its contents are subject to the Eskom Holdings SOC Ltd EMAIL LEGAL NOTICE which can be viewed at<a href="http://www.eskom.co.za/Pages/Email_Legal_Spam_Disclaimer.aspx" class="">http://www.eskom.co.za/Pages/Email_Legal_Spam_Disclaimer.aspx</a><br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">Africa mailing list<br class="">Africa@lists.osgeo.org<br class="">You can UNSUBSCRIBE at<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/africa" class="">https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/africa</a></div></span></font><br class=""></div></div></div></div><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">_______________________________________________</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">Africa mailing list</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><a href="mailto:Africa@lists.osgeo.org" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">Africa@lists.osgeo.org</a><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">You can UNSUBSCRIBE at<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/africa" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/africa</a></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></body></html>