[BuenosAires] Fwd: RE: [HOT] Mapa Inundaciones La Plata

Fernando correo at fernando.com.ar
Wed Apr 10 08:05:25 PDT 2013

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Subject: 	RE: [HOT] Mapa Inundaciones La Plata
Date: 	Wed, 10 Apr 2013 03:16:53 -0700
From: 	Paul Norman <penorman at mac.com>
To: 	'Fernando' <correo at fernando.com.ar>
CC: 	hot at openstreetmap.org

I've put it up. The JOSM URL is 

It goes south to General Belgrano and north across the water into Uruguay.

I'll add it to the JOSM, P2 and iD lists tomorrow.

Technical details:

I did this as JPEG tiles for speed reasons. I also made use of the 
Terralook shapefiles for clipping, which wasn't entirely successful 
because there are some small black gaps.

*From:*Paul Norman [mailto:penorman at mac.com]
*Sent:* Tuesday, April 09, 2013 4:31 PM
*To:* 'Fernando'
*Cc:* hot at openstreetmap.org
*Subject:* Re: [HOT] Mapa Inundaciones La Plata

You have to go through glovis (http://glovis.usgs.gov/) and order it 
from the Terralook ASTER collection. It comes as a geojpeg. I have some 
shell scripts that make the merging easier.  Because it comes from 
Terralook we get no choice of the bands.

I should have it up as a TMS layer tonight.

Landsat 8 will make this much easier, covering every point on Earth 
(except some polar regions) every 16 days and with images 2-3x as wide 
per pass.

*From:*Fernando [mailto:correo at fernando.com.ar]
*Sent:* Tuesday, April 09, 2013 6:13 AM
*To:* Paul Norman
*Cc:* 'Oscar López'; hot at openstreetmap.org <mailto:hot at openstreetmap.org>
*Subject:* Re: [HOT] Mapa Inundaciones La Plata


Please do!, that would be really great.
Is there a link for the full res geotiff?


On 09/04/13 04:30, Paul Norman wrote:

    It's ASTER imagery which is fine. If someone is interested I can
    download and host the full res original geotiff (from the Terralook
    ASTER collection), which will also be correctly georeferenced. It
    would then be available as a background layer in JOSM, P2 or iD.

    *From:*Oscar López [mailto:oskosk at gmail.com]
    *Sent:* Monday, April 08, 2013 10:17 AM
    *To:* Severin MENARD
    *Cc:* hot at openstreetmap.org <mailto:hot at openstreetmap.org>
    *Subject:* Re: [HOT] Mapa Inundaciones La Plata

    According to the Image Policies linked from the footer in

    /"Unless otherwise noted, images and video on JPL public web sites
    (public sites ending with a jpl.nasa.gov <http://jpl.nasa.gov>
    address) *may be used for any purpose without prior permission*,
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    /By electing to download the material from this web site the user

    1. that Caltech makes no representations or warranties with respect
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    3. that the endorsement of any product or service by Caltech, JPL or
    NASA must not be claimed or implied./

    Restrictions explained after these word  apply only regarding NASA
    and JPL logos, trademarks, that may not be used freely except from
    NASA personnel. But

    I think these terms are fully compatible with ODBL.




    On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 1:21 PM, Severin MENARD
    <severin.menard at gmail.com <mailto:severin.menard at gmail.com>> wrote:

    Hi Fernando,

    On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 11:13 AM, Fernando <correo at fernando.com.ar
    <mailto:correo at fernando.com.ar>> wrote:

    Manuel, Severin

    There is some NASA imagery, Oscar put this together:
    http://mapa.ign.gob.ar/laplata/ I dont know if its compatible with ODbL

    http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/catalog/PIA16945 and
    https://lpdaac.usgs.gov/products/aster_policies is not very clear.
    Does someone know  their policy?

        Also, I was told that there was an aerial imagery mission going
        on, I will try to get updates about it and to see if theres a
        way to use that.

        In the other hand, I was setting up an umap instance on
        http://umap.openstreetmap.org.ar then imported the ushahidi KMLs
        into it:


    This is great

        Then presented it at http://sos.openstreetmap.org.ar

        I created a task in OSMTM, we should improve OSM data for La
        Plata and I think that priorities are the places with the
        highest density of alerts.


    Definitely. Based on the umap, I just split the two main affected
    grid, both to highlith them and allow contributor to complete the
    digitizing quicker

        Thats all for now,


        On 08/04/13 10:17, Severin MENARD wrote:

            Hola Manuel,

            Creo que no hay un mapa especifico en este momento, pero
            nosotros podemos hacerle juntos. Usted tiene una fuente de
            imagen con esta inundación, compatible con ODbL, o debemos
            utilizar la de Bing?

            Podemos hablar de eso en el IRC #HOT en el OFTC (link:

            Aparte de eso, usted puede responder in ingles, como es
            la lengua base in esta talk list ? O quizás colocar
            une traducción automática?




            Hi Manuel

            I think there is no specific map for La Plate for the
            momentm but we can make it together. Do you have a ODbL
            comaptible post-flood imagery or do we have touse the Bing one?

            We can talk about this on the HOT IRC on the OFTC network
            (link: http://en.irc2go.com/webchat/?net=OFTC&room=hot)

            Otherwise, can you answer in English? Or maybe put an
            automatic translation?




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                Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2013 13:01:15 -0300
                From: Manuel Retamozo <manuel.retamozo at gmail.com
                <mailto:manuel.retamozo at gmail.com>>
                To: hot at openstreetmap.org <mailto:hot at openstreetmap.org>
                Subject: [HOT] Mapa Inundaciones La Plata
                <CADoJkGqzLnYE+6s7ABuM=K4G5P44qSQjB5cwxa=GtbMBhs2Niw at mail.gmail.com
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                Hola, estan trabajando sobre algun mapa especifico por
                las inundciones de
                la plata?
                Alguien a quien me pueda sumar?

                Analista de Sistemas Manuel Retamozo
                La Plata - Bs As - Argentina
                Calle 62 n821 "D" e/11y12 (CP 1900)
                Tel. (0221) 453-8862
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