Fw: [Aust-NZ] Incorporation of Aust-NZ chapter

[Cameron Shorter]

Regarding open elections:
* Transparent elections are good for deciding technical decisions, but I 
think we should follow the OSGeo process of private elections for 
positions of power.
As Bruce notes, some list members are on government tender selection 
boards, and they could be put in an awkward position if they are accused 
of playing favourites. (Probably wouldn't happen, but I don't think we 
loose anything by playing safe).

Your other comments make sense. I'll follow up on the next email.

Hamish wrote:
> Bruce Bannerman wrote:
>   
>> I'd prefer to keep the vote private.
>>     
>
> I have no problem with Tyler, but as a rule there need to be damn good
> reasons if things are not going to be run with full transparency.
>
> In the case of vote for your favourite, we can make it clear that folks
> participate here privately, not in their professional capacities. And all
> agree to no hard feelings.
>
> In the case of rank the canidates, there is more room for hard feelings
> so the "send votes to Tyler" option could be preferable. And FWIW
> probably that would be under his role as OSGeo Secretary, not as exec
> director.
>
> I would suggest that, with modification/simplification/speedup, the
> Debian project may have some wise ideas to examine-
>   http://www.debian.org/devel/constitution
>   http://www.debian.org/vote/
>
>
>   
>> It will avoid future problems with perceptions of bias relating to who
>> voted for whom etc.
>>     
> ...
>   
>> We will also have people who are not comfortable either voting in
>> public or having people know who they voted for.
>>     
>
> The exact same thing could be argued for the opposite case, on both
> counts.
>
>   
>> I also propose that voting is open during the following
>> period (times are Australian Eastern Standard Time):
>>
>> - 12:00 noon, Friday 4th April 2008 - voting opens
>>
>> - 12:00 noon, Saturday 5th April 2008 - voting closes
>>     
>
> "-1."
>
> too short. give it 5 days. and way too soon, the list must come to a
> clear consensus about the process first. And if Tyler is going to be used
> as a trusted convener, he must agree and be given a chance to convey his
> thoughts about the process rather than have it thrust upon him. We don't
> even have an answer to the WA residency question yet, do we? Or who has
> accepted their nomination? How long is the elected term?
>
>
> but are we jumping the gun here? there are other methods, e.g. elect a
> board somehow, and have that board elect their chair (in public).
> (we are talking about electing a director here, is that right? even that
> is not clear to me) I take it the WA laws say there must be a board as
> well as a chair, correct?
>
> I understand that 2009 is not far off and we need to get moving, but we
> must do this right.
>
>
> Hamish
>
>
> ps- it would be very helpful if everyone who has accepted a nomination
> could introduce themselves and say a few words about their background,
> FOSS qualifications, and ideas for the project. thanks.
>
>
>
>
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