[Aust-NZ] Aust-NZ Digest, Vol 114, Issue 16
Cameron Shorter
cameron.shorter at gmail.com
Thu Nov 23 10:54:13 PST 2017
Jamila,
I don't believe Australia is ready to hold an international FOSS4G for
at least 2 years, and probably more. I believe we should not be
considered for an international FOSS4G until we have successfully run a
national (Aust/NZ) and then a regional (Asia/Pacific) FOSS4G, probably
starting with 50 to 100 delegates.
And for the first few years we should be looking to run an event at as
low a cost as possible - ideally getting a venue for free, or close to
free. (I expect that will be a tough ask for you).
I believe I say this with authority as I chaired the international
FOSS4G in 2009, and up to a couple of weeks ago had been on the
international FOSS4G committee since 2009.
So good to hear you interest, but I think you are significantly
premature in reaching out.
On 23/11/17 10:44 am, Jamila Javanshir wrote:
> Re: FOSS4G-ANZ
>
> Dear All
>
> Greeting from Melbourne Convention Bureau! We represent a partnership between Victorian Government, City of Melbourne and private enterprise and our role is to attract national and international meetings and conferences to Melbourne.
>
> We are interested in a discussion about hosting FOSS4G-ANZ in Melbourne and what support you may require from our side should you decide to go ahead with it.
>
> We have been working on the opportunity to bring the International FOSS4G Summit to Melbourne for a few years now, so would be happy to help.
>
> With kind regards
>
>
> Jamila Javanshir
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> 1. Re: FOSS4G-ANZ? - Doodle pole for kickoff meeting
> (Cameron Shorter)
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> Subject: Re: [Aust-NZ] FOSS4G-ANZ? - Doodle pole for kickoff meeting
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> Hi all,
>
> For those interested in being involved in a FOSS4G-ANZ conference for 2018, I've set up a Doodle pole for a kickoff meeting next week. Please let us know when you are available.
>
> https://doodle.com/poll/s3vdegqcqrdbxq4w
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> Meeting location: irc://freenode.net#osgeo
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> Primary email list: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/aust-nz
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> Agenda (extending John Bryan's agenda):
> -form a committee & determine 'rules of engagement' (how do we work together as a group?) -broadly scope the event, determine key details (what is it? when is it?)
> * How many days?
> * Venue type?
> * Target size?
> * Target cost?
> * Program?
> * What location? (how we select it)
> -select communication forum(s): email list, wiki, meeting times -nominate and save the date -plot out a schedule for the planning process -identify, and begin engaging with, key stakeholders
> * Potential bodies to manage finances: SSSI, OSGeo, OSM State of the Map, other
> * Potential champions: LINZ, GA, CSIRO,
> -begin spreading the word!
>
> Agenda (extending John Bryan's agenda):
> -form a committee & determine 'rules of engagement'
> -broadly scope the event
> * How many days?
> * Venue type?
> * Target size?
> * Target cost?
> * Program?
> * What location?
> -select communication forum(s): email list, wiki, meeting times -nominate and save the date -plot out a schedule for the planning process -identify, and begin engaging with, key stakeholders
>
>
> Re setting up FOSS4G conferences, the OSGeo Conference Committee has been building up a cookbook over the years. It is not complete, but is a starting point:
> https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G_Handbook
>
> Cheers, Cameron
>
> On 22/11/17 9:19 pm, John Bryant wrote:
>> Hi all, I can see the below message on the online version of the
>> thread, but it didn't come through to my email. I see it was posted
>> early this morning, but I couldn't see it online until this evening.
>> In case I'm not the only one who didn't get it, I'll paste it here:
>>
>> Apologies for the cross posting, but I figured it was worth making
>> sure a few key people/groups are aware of this discussion.
>>
>> I second Daniel's comments.
>>
>> As an intro, I work at NIWA and have been active in the NZ FOSS
>> GIS community for some years (QGIS, Postgis, Geonetwork, GMT,
>> GDAL, etc...), and a semi-regular at FOSS4G when I can.
>> There are a few events that this could link in with, and a few
>> local SIGs & forums that may also be interested, but if
>> TechnologyOne are interested in linking this to their QGIS
>> workshops, I think that would be an ideal start, possibly even in
>> both countries??
>>
>> Some other NZ groups/events we could perhaps work with:
>>
>> NZ Spatial Excellence awards
>> Horizons Regional GIS forum
>> NZOSA
>> ALGIM
>> NZ Emerging Spatial Professionals
>> ...
>>
>> My time & availability is limited, but very happy to help where I
>> can to progress this.
>>
>>
>> Brent Wood
>>
>>
>> On 21 November 2017 at 22:50, Alex Leith <alexgleith at gmail.com
>> <mailto:alexgleith at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Daniel and others
>>
>> I think that sounds like a good plan, alternating between NZ and AU.
>>
>> Responding to Jeff, it's fantastic to know that OSGeo is
>> supportive. And my earlier comments around 'organisation' really
>> are around how we can have an account and seed funding to start
>> from. I think doing that through an existing organisation sounds
>> way better than creating an entity.
>>
>> Regarding John's steps, I think this is just about right.
>> Somewhere in there needs to be the organising of a relationship
>> with a body that can handle the money, though. Once we've got a
>> bit of a prospectus, I can talk to SSSI, potentially. Are there
>> other organisations may be interested?
>>
>> And again, I agree with John, so let's try to arrange some kind of
>> video meeting soon. I suggest the week after next, so 5 or 6 of Dec.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Alex
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 21 Nov 2017 at 22:18 dwsilk <dsilk at linz.govt.nz
>> <mailto:dsilk at linz.govt.nz>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all
>>
>> For those that don't know me, I work at Land Information New
>> Zealand and
>> attended the QGIS Au meetup on Friday.
>>
>> On 21 November 2017 at 23:21, John Bryant <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> >
>> > I see the first steps, roughly, as:
>> >
>> > -form a committee & determine 'rules of engagement' (how do
>> we work
>> > together as a group?)
>>
>> ..and as an extension of this, how do we work together as two
>> countries?
>>
>> One idea that I raised with John when we discussed this was:
>> - sharing membership of an organising committee between Au/NZ
>> - alternating FOSS4G events between the two countries each year
>> - heavy lifting is taken on by the committee members from the
>> host country
>>
>> As a bit of background, TechnologyOne has organised a QGIS
>> user conference
>> in New Zealand for the last few years. That conference already
>> consisted of
>> 2 or 3 days of workshops + two days of conference (one day on
>> QGIS, one day
>> on Intramaps) and I'm guessing attracts around 100 attendees.
>>
>> There is certainly interest here in expanding this to a FOSS4G
>> event and I'm
>> keen to continue to be part of the discussion and work toward
>> making that
>> happen.
>>
>> On 21 November 2017 at 01:49, Jeff McKenna <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> >
>> > - I think the future model of FOSS4G events can be seen in
>> the recent
>> > FOSS4G-SotM-AR http://www.foss4g-ar.org/ (Argentina).
>>
>> That event looks great Jeff, and the additional guidance will
>> be valuable.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Daniel
>>
>>
>>
>>
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