[OSGeo-Board] Infrastructure proposal/assessment - item for tomorrow?

[Gary Lang]

Yes.

Do we have any independent references? Everyone sounds good on their web
sites, brochures and personal sales pitches. 

Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Holmes [mailto:cholmes at openplans.org] 
Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 2:14 PM
To: Jo Walsh
Cc: Gary Lang; Tyler Mitchell (External); OSGeo-Board
Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Board] Infrastructure proposal/assessment - item for
tomorrow?

I like this option a lot.  Seem like very friendly folks, and being part
of a university they should have very good bandwidth.  If they can do a
managed svn server with good uptime they could be a good option for
that, with telascience doing the stuff needing less intensive updtime.

Chris


Jo Walsh wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 04, 2006 at 09:57:44AM -0700, Gary Lang wrote:
>> Jo, thanks for doing this. It's definitely worth a look.
> 
> Well, this is a survey of what projects need in the way of online 
> services and have asked for - Cameron Shorter is keen to get Community

> Mapbuilder out of codehaus - Bob Bray of MapGuide has spoken of this 
> as his basic needs. I hope it will be a useful indicator of a lowest 
> common denominator.
> 
> I think there is a lot of volunteer energy to help set things up, but 
> not so much to maintain them. The Open Source Lab seem like a really 
> solid organisation. They provide 'unmanaged' hosting as well as 
> potentially custom 'managed' support - maintenance of OS, security 
> update, etc. They work with a lot of serious open source projects and 
> organisations who one would want to be friends with:
> http://osuosl.org/hosting/clients
> 
> The situation with them is they run infrastructure for a lot of open 
> source projects; they are an independent organisation within OSU; 
> Google and IBM have sponsored them to be able to afford staff costs.
> That is their biggest lag issue right now and they are actively 
> pursuing sponsorship. One could have N amount of a person's time from 
> them for a certain sum. This could be an option - OSGeo sponsoring the

> OSL organisation and getting managed support in return.
> 
> I'm recommending looking hard at this setup because it makes a lot of 
> sense to me; what are our other options? While to a great extent we 
> can syndicate hosting among different friendly institutions and try to

> rely on a small group of volunteers to maintain a central core... it 
> really should *not* be something that OSGeo in general has to worry
about in its
> daily transactions.   
> 
> 
> jo
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Tyler Mitchell (External)
>> Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2006 12:08 PM
>> To: OSGeo-Board
>> Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Board] Infrastructure proposal/assessment - item 
>> for tomorrow?
>>
>> Re: the proposal...
>>> http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/Infrastructure_Proposal
>> Three things that I think you need to discuss and, hopefully, decide
>> tomorrow:
>> 1) Timing urgency for moving/setting up each infrastructure component

>> to a new platform
>> 2) Tasking specific individuals/groups with responsibility for making

>> it happen
>> 3) Budget availability for setting up/administering new 
>> infrastructure
>>
>> Without any of these, nothing can be realistically expected to move 
>> forward.  I'm keen to help wherever I can.
>>
>> Hope this helps,
>> Tyler
>>
>> On 3-Aug-06, at 11:14 AM, Jo Walsh wrote:
>>
>>> dear all,
>>>
>>> I added an item to the agenda for tomorrow - a discussion / sanity 
>>> check of this assessment of OSGeo's infrastructure needs that Tyler 
>>> and I started putting together over the last few days:
>>>
>>> http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/Infrastructure_Proposal
>>>
>>> This is a response to what Gary has been calling for a while - a 
>>> definite outline of what project needs are and what tools are 
>>> strongly preferred, with a potential hosting and support option at 
>>> the OSU Open Source Lab which is really appealing - 
>>> http://osuosl.org/
>>>
>>> Feedback apprec;  look forward to talking tomorrow
>>
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