[OSGeo-Board] questions about OGC membership

[Arnulf Christl]

On Wed, December 13, 2006 21:34, Michael P. Gerlek wrote:
> Arnulf and I are at the OGC mtg here in Sandy Eggo this week and this
> subject has already come up a couple times.

Hi,
yes OSGeo is going to be involved if it wants to (carefully avoiding "we"
here, mpg and 7 are only exchangeable interfaces). It has to be negotiated
and this will have to happen on this list. I am not prepared to take this
underground via CCGIS or myself and suggest that no other OGC member does
this either. But this obviously also can be discussed.

I do not think that OSGeo actually can be a member of OGC. It would look
like the Southern Hemisphere joining the European Union. Huh? Exactly.

It has been suggested that individual OSGeo developers (contributors to
OSGeo related projects including Edu and Data) could become member status
of the OGC without direct cost (cash) to be able to join technical
committee meetings, vote etc. We need to work out what OSGeo can provide
in turn. Suggestions?

I will present OSGeo to the OGC Planning Committee on Friday with a set of
slides.

((current discussion on simplified WFS lost itself in whether there is a
need for WFS profiles))

Board,
if you want to give me some directions or advice please holler at me.

Regards,

> Yesterday Raj Singh started a "Mass Market" Working Group within OGC
> that is just right for us.  Ghastly name, but the charter is to be the
> arm of OGC dealing with technologies like GeoRSS, WMS-Tile/Cache, KML,
> WFS-Simple, etc.  OGC seems to be recognizing that they currently cater
> to the "enterprise-class" world (ebRIM, BPEL, etc), but that there is
> also a whole 'nother world that they could play in too.  Indeed, working
> with OSGeo is called out specifically in this group's charter.
>
> (I will not enter into the debate about whether the dichotomy between
> "enterprise" and "mass market" geo technologies is a false one or not.
> I suspect it might be to many of us, but I'm willing to go with OGC's
> view of the world on this one for now.  One battle at a time.)
>
> Couple other OSGeo faces here, too -- Josh Lieberman, Ian Turton.  Maybe
> more I don't recognize.
>
> Arnulf, I believe, has the logistical angles well covered on this as to
> what sort of membership level we could have.
>
> Up the revolution,
> -mpg
>
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jo Walsh [mailto:jo at frot.org]
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 12:21 PM
>> To: board at board.osgeo.org
>> Subject: [OSGeo-Board] questions about OGC membership
>>
>> dear all,
>>
>> When I talked with Emmanuel Mondon from IONIC yesterday he quite
>> pressingly suggested that OSGeo should join the OGC, that would be a
>> better position than a selection of members being OGC members.
>> Though CCGIS are rhodium sponsors, or what have you...
>>
>> OGC membership - is it appropriate for OSGeo? One would not want to
>> pay, being a nonprofit - do they have provisions for nonprofit /
>> institutional members? What would involvement practically mean over
>> and above the existing high level of involvement from many members
>> of the OSGeo activity?
>>
>> It could be of benefit to be in a position to influence the OGC, and
>> thus the ISO, more; the recent trend wherein the OGC metadata spec now
>> links directly to the "add to your shopping basket" page on the ISO
>> website is disconcerting. ebRIM sounds like it is basically a scandal,
>> though i need to read the spec before i have any right to say things
>> like that. If OSGeo has a voice of reason, can it be more effective?
>>
>> cheers,
>>
>>
>> jo
>>
>>
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