[Board] Re: Naming of several mailing lists

[Tyler Mitchell]

I agree your assessment Markus. What is the best way to change and improve this?  I'm sure Shawn could breeze through this somehow and make a batch of changes.

Just as a brief bit of background, the import process scripts for list archives used CN's subdomain + mailing list name to make everything unique.  Hence the "discuss" list that was managed by CN's "Mail" project/subdomain.  Obviously ones like Mapguide_user ended up being a bit more intuitive.

What is the best way to change/improve this?  Is mailman scriptable so we can make some bulk changes and re-send out subscription information?  From talking with Shawn it sounds like you create a new list, import the old lists archives, and then re-subscribe everyone.

Are the only problems that:
1) the address to send mail to changes (so people have to update address books, etc)
2) and the address it arrives from changes (so people need to update their filter rules where applicable).

Are there any other issues?
This renaming has come up in several forums, and there was one suggestion that "OSGeo" be part of list names as well.

What is the best way to address the overall problem?  Can someone put together a list of what the new list names could be and then we can debate it with list owners and/or SAC/WebCom?  

Happy to help improve this - is there consensus to change and should a couple of us just put together a list for discussion and go from there?

Tyler

----- Original Message -----
From: Markus Neteler <neteler.osgeo at gmail.com>
Date: Saturday, January 6, 2007 11:13 am
Subject: Naming of several mailing lists

> Dear all,
> 
> looking at
> http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo
> 
> I see a couple of inconsistencies and strange names
> for the new lists. Maybe already too late, but maybe
> better now than never:
> 
> The following lists have an obscure "Mail_" prefix:
>  Mail_africa  	[no description available]
>  Mail_announce 	OSGeo Announcements
>  Mail_commits 	[no description available]
>  Mail_discuss 	OSGeo Foundation Discuss List
>  Mail_francophone 	[no description available]
>  Mail_mse-users 	[no description available]
>  Mail_webmap-discuss 	[no description available]
> 
> while there are the more reasonable:
>  Africa  	Africa local chapter discussions
>  Brasil_commits 	[no description available]
>  Brasil_cvs 	[no description available]
>  Brasil_issues 	[no description available]
> 
> - What's the difference between "Mail_africa" and "Africa"?
> - "Mail_announce" could simply be "announce"
> - "Mail_discuss" could simply be "discuss"
> - "Mail_francophone" could simply be "francophone"
> and so forth.
> 
> The veeery long names are also a bit unfortunate:
>  Visibilitycommittee_announce  	[no description available]
>  Visibilitycommittee_dev 	Visibility Committee Discussion List
>  Visibilitycommittee_discuss-de 	Deutschsprachiges OSGeo Marketing
>  Webcommittee_announce 	[no description available]
>  Webcommittee_commits 	[no description available]
>  Webcommittee_dev 	Discussion and development of OSGeo's web presence
>  Webcommittee_issues 	[no description available]
> 
> -> Webcom_ and Viscom_? But above "Mail_" prefixes are worse.
> 
> Finally: Simplyfy this one:
>  Www_international-discuss 	Discussion on how to improve
> international networking
> to "intl-discuss" as before?
> 
> And:
> Www_news-item
> and
> News_commits
> should probably be made more similar?
> 
> Sorry for bothering,
> Markus
>