[Board] Fwd: [OSGeo-Discuss] Fwd: Foss4g 2012 ???

Wed May 2 16:16:08 PDT 2012

Hi all,

Mpg, whooa, you're the first one to publicly say that FOSS4G 2012 will be a
regional event finally.
So what is happening to OSGeo this year ? No FOSS4G ? No Conference "Man" ?
No ambassadors right ?
That's pretty hard. I mean i' don't see this year without any global
FOSS4G, without any AGM, without any shootout (either WMS, WFS or WPS), and
without our annual global gathering.
I know the Chinese team is late or may be did not do the job OSGeo is
waiting from a LOC. But what ?
Shoud'nt people, community, or the highest instances of OSGeo react to this
?
What is the Foundation going to do ? Just to annouce that we have no FOSS4G
this year ?
Or just that community that is not attending FOSS4G-NA, FOSS4G-CEE or
FOSS4G-CN just won't have any FOSS4G this year ?
That'd be the first year without any global event, at least for me, and at
least without Jeff too...
I really think that if FOSS4G is going to become a regional event, then we
MUST have Ambassadors and much stronger local chapters.

My 2 cents

Best,

Nick

2012/5/2 Michael P. Gerlek <mpg at flaxen.com>

> I'm going to be the pessimist/extremist this time around:
>
> The Beijing team has had plenty of time to get things going, but they have
> not succeeded. We reached out to them several times in several ways, but
> with no success.
>
> Therefore, we (the board) should be honest with our community and
> officially remove the "annual FOSS4G meeting" designation from this event.
> That is within our authority and responsibility.
>
> It won't be the right venue for the Sol Katz, the AGM, or the Shootout,
> because we won't have some of the key players there -- the distance to
> travel was a big enough burden to start with, but the lack of progress by
> the LOC has probably killed off any remaining chance of getting good
> international attendance. I don't think the AGM, Sol Katz, or Shootout
> should be held in Beijing, as the expected size, audience makeup, and
> organizational aspects there won't be significant enough.
>
> The Beijing team is welcome to continue to hold an event, of course, but
> it will be "just" a regional event (e.g. like the North American one we had
> last month).
>
> -mpg
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: board-bounces at lists.osgeo.org [mailto:
> board-bounces at lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Seven (aka Arnulf)
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 10:18 AM
> > To: board at lists.osgeo.org
> > Subject: Re: [Board] Fwd: [OSGeo-Discuss] Fwd: Foss4g 2012 ???
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> > On 02.05.2012 18:58, nicolas bozon wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I agree Peter,
> > >
> > > However, OSGeo and Board should probably focuss on Beijing that
> > > will happen, before advertizing Nottingham or Helsinki. I mean, is
> > > there a way that board and community should try to 'save' that next
> > > foss4g ? At least to get a real website, some calls for
> > > papers/sponsors and may be a few attendees from EU or US, not only
> > > people from China or Asia; it should be possible, even in 4/5
> > > months ? am i wrong or desparate ?
> >
> > Thanks for chiming in, Nick.
> >
> > Yes, you are desperate - as we are. We have been trying to get a
> > website work over the past three months - to no avail. There will
> > still be some EU and US folks but not comparable to what we got used
> > to with prior FOSS4G. It will not be comparable to the previous
> > version of the global event - simply because we are running out of
> > time. Our message is intended to make this clear to potential sponsors
> > and to individuals and organizations who expect FOSS4G in Beijing to
> > be "the" event. From all that I can tell it is not even sure whether
> > we will be able to have a majority of the board of directors there and
> > the AGM - if it takes place - will likely not represent a global
> > representation either. Not sure whether we will have a WMS shootout,
> > whether there will be workshops, or who of the globally recognized
> > bigshot devs will be there - and all of these things need to be
> > addressed in the coming weeks.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Arnulf
> >
> > > Best,
> > >
> > > Nick
> > >
> > >
> > > 2012/5/2 Peter Batty <peter at ebatty.com <mailto:peter at ebatty.com>>
> > >
> > > Also, while we don't want it to be too long, we should maybe say
> > > something along the lines of ...
> > >
> > > While we continue to review and evolve our conference strategy,
> > > and anticipate multiple regional conferences in 2013, we do plan to
> > > hold the primary global FOSS4G conference in Europe in 2013. We
> > > have a selection process under way and the two candidates remaining
> > > are Helsinki and Nottingham.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 10:31 AM, Jo Cook
> > > <jocook at astuntechnology.com <mailto:jocook at astuntechnology.com>>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Arnulf,
> > >
> > > In general I think this is fine. I think, for the sake of the
> > > conspiracy-theorists amongst our membership that we should maybe
> > > reiterate the point about the main FOSS4G, with the Sol Katz, AGM,
> > > Directors F2F etc. This currently reads as if the Chinese event is
> > > on the same level as the NA and CEE events, and regardless of the
> > > issues at this stage it's still the main event. It's also quite
> > > circumspect as well- maybe we should be a little more enthusiastic
> > > about it?
> > >
> > > I've added another paragraph in-line which is my attempt at
> > > addressing this (feel free to change)
> > >
> > > Jo
> > >
> > > On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 5:21 PM, Seven (aka Arnulf) <seven at arnulf.us
> > > <mailto:seven at arnulf.us>> wrote:
> > >
> > > Board, in order to address the growing number of requests (see
> > > another one below) I suggest that we officially communicate that
> > > FOSS4G in China is going to happen - but under somewhat different
> > > circumstances than the previous FOSS4G conferences might have us
> > > expect.
> > >
> > > As an addendum I suggest to add that: This year saw quite a
> > > significant change in the policy around FOSS4G. It is the first
> > > time that we are having three major FOSS4G conferences in one year.
> > > One has already happened in North America (Washington DC, USA),
> > > the second Central and Eastern Europe edition will take place in
> > > May in Prague in the Czech Repulic and the third one will take
> > > place in China, Beijing. In addition there is a growing number of
> > > local conferences, sometimes also under the name FOSS4G. OSGeo is
> > > new to this and we are still collecting experiences as to the
> > > effects that this diversity has on the originally one and only
> > > global FOSS4G.
> > >
> > >
> > >> Having said that, FOSS4G in Beijing is still our main FOSS4G
> > >> event, and we will be holding the Sol Katz award, OSGeo AGM and
> > >> Board of Directors meeting there. We fully support the event and
> > >> the efforts being put in by the Beijing team and hope to see as
> > >> many of you there as possible.
> > >
> > >
> > > The conference organizers in Beijing have experienced serious
> > > delays in the schedule due to local circumstances which OSGeo
> > > cannot influence. It is therefore at this point in time not clear
> > > how many international sponsors or participants will be in
> > > Beijing. If you are interested in becoming a sponsor we suggest to
> > > directly contact the Beijing organizing team through the FOSS4G
> > > 2012 mailing list. If you are interested in submitting an abstract
> > > for a presentation or a workshop please be prepared to have a short
> > > submission period which will be announced on all channels once
> > > available.
> > >
> > > EOF
> > >
> > > Please help me edit this message. It should not be too long so
> > > that people actually take the time to read it. We must send
> > > something along these lines now because sponsors are delaying their
> > > support for other potential events which would make more sense to
> > > them. And in general we do not make a good impression with FOSS4G
> > > in China right now, so stepping back a bit and explaining why is
> > > required. On the other hand we also want to be as positive as
> > > possible towards the our Chinese hosts. If you have any better
> > > ideas I am all open for a completely new message but we cannot
> > > delay this any more.
> > >
> > > Cheers, Arnulf
> > >
> > > -------- Original Message -------- Subject:        [OSGeo-Discuss]
> > > Fwd: Foss4g 2012 ??? Date:   Tue, 1 May 2012 13:47:41 +0200 From:
> > > Massimiliano Cannata <massimiliano.cannata at supsi.ch
> > > <mailto:massimiliano.cannata at supsi.ch>> To:     OSGeo Discussions
> > > <discuss at lists.osgeo.org <mailto:discuss at lists.osgeo.org>>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi all, I didn't see any news since a long time. On the website no
> > > deadlines or communications... Usually things was already moved...
> > > What's up? What's going on?
> > >
> > > I would expect soon communication from the board as this the
> > > 'official' OSGeo event...
> > >
> > > Looking forward for a successful 2012 event.
> > >
> > > Maxi
> > >
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