[Board] Privacy

[maplabs at light42.com]

(see below for context)

  Back in 2007 or so when I first learned of OSGeo, I recall going to 
an event in San Francisco at their "brickhouse" informal research 
facility, and talking to a rather intense young man about real-time 
location and privacy

http://techcrunch.com/2008/03/05/yahoos-twitter-for-location-goes-into-private-beta-with-near-zero-functionality/

regarding RFCs -- I am old enough to have forgotten many Internet 
RFC's.. I am not sure how to approach those RFCs about privacy and 
location, given the outrageous transgressions of the largest commercial 
companies and almost every federal government.. however, I suppose some 
basis for shared thought must be established in "civil society" ... 

So, that link aside.. 

I think it would be fun and useful to have a world map of OSGeo 
Charters.. a self-supllied, opt-in location, perhaps by level-1 admin 
or metropolitan area, might be useful enough to get the point across 
(pun). Also, I suggest that members ought to be able to lie if they 
want to.. ala SlashDot user polls where there is an obvious false anwer 
available, like Antarctica, the Fortress of Solitude or Null Island. 

best regards from Berkeley, California

--
Brian M Hamlin
OSGeo California Chapter
blog.light42.com

On Tue, 22 Oct 2013 12:56:21 -0600, Carl Reed 
<creed at opengeospatial.org> wrote:
>
> Back around 2000 I worked a privacy manifesto for location services 
> (now used in the Open Mobile Alliance). Document is attached. 
>
> I would also look to all of the privacy standards work being done in 
> the IETF. Many of the questions raised by Jachym have been raised and 
> discussed in the GeoPriv Working Group of the IETF. For example, 
> location obfuscation, location dereferencing, and so forth. 
> Approaches are documented in a variety of internet RFCs. 

> On 22.10.2013 20:10, Jáchym Čepický wrote:
> >> In my experience location is not well defined in any legislation anyway. 
> >> What level of location precision requires the consent of the user?
> >> Country level, county, district, city, quarter, street, floor,
> >> apartment? Location in WGS 84 degrees with what decimal precision? What
> >> about our web server logs? In some cases the user IP can be traced to a
> >> home location, in association with the Wiki account of the user even
> >> this becomes private data. Ho do we make sure that no "unauthorized"
> >> person can access this data? Nil return. 
> >>
> >> These questions are unanswered but should be addressed by someone. 
> >> Regarding location this might even be a business model for OSGeo. 
> >> Besides OSGeo it might be interesting for the OGC, ISO and it certainly
> >> is for OpenStreetMap. Folks like Google/Bing/Here have money to spend on
> >> this, making this not only a painful volunteer thing but a potentially
> >> sponsored endeavor, probably even pretty easily. Anybody interested?
> >>
> >
> > Not sure, if I understand your point - what could be business model for
> > OSGeo here?
>
> Jachym,
> I was suggesting that OSGeo get some funding from the big geo folks to
> develop a location privacy policy that is not legalese but rooted in
> geospatial sense. A high level appreciation of the privacy aspects of
> location. 
>