[Board] Sprint surplus over at CUGOS...
Daniel Morissette
dmorissette at mapgears.com
Fri Jan 3 07:03:29 PST 2014
Hi MPG, Cameron,
Please send the check to OSGeo and we'll transfer the funds to the
Vienna Sprint organizers when time comes.
Please use the following mailing address:
Open Source Geospatial Foundation
280-345, rue des Sagueneens
Chicoutimi QC G7H6K9
Canada
Thanks
Daniel
On 13-12-26 3:49 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote:
>
> We, the board, should provide mpg a definitive answer to his question as
> to who he should write a check to.
>
> Daniel, I suspect that that board will defer to your recommendation below.
> Could you please write down your thoughts as a concise proposal, such
> that the rest of the board can vote on it.
>
> On 27/12/13 05:12, Michael Gerlek wrote:
>> Do we have a resolution on this yet?
>>
>> -mpg
>>
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Daniel Morissette <dmorissette at mapgears.com>
>> Date: Thursday, November 14, 2013 at 6:31 AM
>> To: Michael Gerlek <mpg at flaxen.com>, Paolo Cavallini
>> <cavallini at faunalia.it>, Aaron Racicot <aaronr at z-pulley.com>
>> Cc: OSGeo Board <board at lists.osgeo.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Board] Sprint surplus over at CUGOS...
>>
>>> My short answer:
>>>
>>> It is simpler to send the money directly to Stephan at this point. He is
>>> setting up an open budget/reporting spreadsheet for the event which will
>>> include reporting for this amount (as was done for most previous
>>> editions). I say we can decide on how to deal with the 2014 surplus
>>> after the sprint (go through OSGeo, or directly to Philly team).
>>>
>>> My long answer;
>>>
>>> Contrary to what is suggested by a few people in this thread, I don't
>>> think that everything with an OSGeo label needs to go through OSGeo's
>>> bank account, as long as it is done in an open way (open budget and
>>> reporting) and there is no indication of fraud for instance. However, if
>>> OSGeo can help manage the finances (or carrying the surplus from year to
>>> year) of an activity without too much overhead then I'm all for it.
>>>
>>> For instance, the QGIS, GRASS and Bolsena sprints all have their own
>>> ways to manage money and all we ask for them is to have open books if
>>> they want OSGeo to provide funding. Same for local FOSS4G/OSGeo events
>>> in several regions of the world. In the case of the C Tribe sprint, it
>>> is not even asking for money from OSGeo, it got its own sponsors year
>>> over year and accumulated a surplus over the years, so I see no reason
>>> to force the sprint to be managed by OSGeo unless it helps the
>>> organizers in some way.
>>>
>>>
>>> That's just my 0.02$ or course, which doesn't mean that having a heavier
>>> OSGeo with tighter control on anything done by anyone around the world
>>> with an OSGeo label is a bad idea. But if we were to go that route then
>>> we'd need more hands to carry the weight and manage that heavier
>>> structure.
>>>
>>> Daniel
>>>
>>>
>>> On 13-11-13 3:52 PM, Michael Gerlek wrote:
>>>> Dearest Board:
>>>>
>>>> What¹s the consensus on this? Should the money go to Stefan or to
>>>> Daniel?
>>>>
>>>> -mpg, ready to write a big check
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From: Paolo Cavallini <cavallini at faunalia.it
>>>> <mailto:cavallini at faunalia.it>>
>>>> Date: Thursday, October 31, 2013 at 10:58 AM
>>>> To: Aaron Racicot <aaronr at z-pulley.com <mailto:aaronr at z-pulley.com>>,
>>>> Daniel Morissette <dmorissette at mapgears.com
>>>> <mailto:dmorissette at mapgears.com>>
>>>> Cc: OSGeo Board <board at lists.osgeo.org <mailto:board at lists.osgeo.org>>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Board] Sprint surplus over at CUGOS...
>>>>
>>>> +1
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> Aaron Racicot <aaronr at z-pulley.com
>>>> <mailto:aaronr at z-pulley.com>> ha
>>>> scritto:
>>>>
>>>> Personally I think this is a bad model. If these are OSGeo
>>>> sprints, OSGeo should carry the cash from year to year and use
>>>> it to help subsidize the sprints.
>>>>
>>>> For many informal orgs (who end up hosting these events) it is
>>>> hard to carry this cash for long periods of time on their
>>>> books
>>>> (if they are even formal enough to have books). We at CUGOS
>>>> have held this money for 2+ years.
>>>>
>>>> If OSGeo is serious about these types of events it seems like
>>>> making an ongoing account within the organization to carry
>>>> this
>>>> money would be wise.
>>>>
>>>> Just my $0.02
>>>>
>>>> A
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 31, 2013, at 11:22 AM, Daniel Morissette
>>>> <dmorissette at mapgears.com <mailto:dmorissette at mapgears.com>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Agreed. I'd say we pass it on to Stephan for the 2014 sprint.
>>>>>
>>>>> Daniel
>>>>>
>>>>> On 13-10-31 1:07 PM, Paul Ramsey wrote:
>>>>>> Turn it over to the 2014 folks, IMO
>>>>>>
>>>>>> P
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> On October 31, 2013 at 10:05:52 AM, Michael Gerlek
>>>>>> (mpg at flaxen.com <mailto:mpg at flaxen.com>
>>>>>> <mailto://mpg@flaxen.com>) wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There was a surplus of $2,052.92 from the 2011 Sprint event
>>>>>>> and a
>>>>>>> surplus of $2,392.06 from the 2012 Sprint event and a
>>>>>>> deficit of
>>>>>>> $992.54 from the 2013 Sprint event, for a total of $3452.44
>>>>>>> being held
>>>>>>> in trust today by CUGOS for future sprint events
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We (CUGOS) would like to get this money off our books and
>>>>>>> turn it over
>>>>>>> to either the 2014 sprint organizers or to OSGeo itself.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Suggestions, thoughts, comments?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -mpg
>>>>>>>
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