[Board] Support for OSGeo officers (Re: My attendance in Portland)

Thu Jul 17 03:37:48 PDT 2014

Arnulf,

Though the OSGeo President role is voluntary , I fully agree that there should be a funding mechanism in place for OSGeo President's travel budget for example. OSGeo President should not have to ask and argue for funds each time they travel to represent the organisation.

My suggestion, it to have the OSGeo Board to decide allocating a yearly travel budget to cover OSGeo President's travel for attending key strategic events globally. Whoever is the OSGeo President can then free thier time and efforts to concentrate on bigger things for the organisation. 

Suchith

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Folks,
this is all good and nice but this will not work if the presidents
have to ask and argue for every 100 bucks they spend on their job. And
yes, the way that people now are apparently seeing this role - it is a
*job*. Which means it takes away time from your day-job. And nobody
can sustain this for any prolonged period. Both Jeff and I have
already proven this. So either the president will not be able to live
up to the expectations expressed here or they will burn out and run
dry. The only option is to have some funding.

This is a no-brainer. So please, if you suggest a four year term then
also specify whether this should be a full term / part time / leisure
/ hobby job and if so how you expect to fund it and then also provide
arguments for the community why this job is funded and who should pay
for it.

...comes in an erlies scenario with payed membership...

Cheers,
Arnulf

On 07/17/2014 11:35 AM, Bart van den Eijnden wrote:
> I agree. I’d say 4 years is good for both min and max (so nothing
> less than 4, but also nothing more than 4 ideally).
>
> First step is for the (Charter Member) community to re-elect Jeff
> in the upcoming board elections. Then the board can vote him into
> presidency again.
>
> Best regards, Bart
>
> On 17 Jul 2014, at 11:17, Suchith Anand
> <Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> My humble suggestion is that President term should be min 4 year
>> term . This is what many other organisations do as it takes time
>> for people to learn and grow into the role.  Having yearly
>> changes is not good for the organisation.
>>
>> Jeff is doing an amazing role as President of OSGeo actively
>> promoting us globally and providing strong leadership. I
>> requested him when i met him at FOSS4G-E  , if he is happy to
>> continue as OSGeo President to please consider min. 4 year term.
>> I am happy to see he is considering this.
>>
>> Suchith
>>
>>
>> From: board-bounces at lists.osgeo.org
>> [board-bounces at lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Jeff McKenna
>> [jmckenna at gatewaygeomatics.com] Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2014
>> 9:59 AM To: board at lists.osgeo.org Subject: Re: [Board] Support
>> fot OSGeo officers (Re: My attendance in Portland)
>>
>> On 2014-07-16, 10:07 AM, Seven (aka Arnulf) wrote:
>>> Next: Yes, my business suffered a lot during my presidency. It
>>> is one of the reasons why I think that the term should be
>>> limited. Oher than Jeff I think that one year president elect
>>> followed by one year full president is enough. There is
>>> nothing worse than burning out your presidents and discarding
>>> them when they are done. Not good.
>>>
>>
>> Hi Arnulf,
>>
>> On your point about the length of term for OSGeo President I
>> strongly disagree, and it is becoming more clear to me as I grow
>> into the position.  I had the pleasure of spending a lot of time
>> privately recently with Georg Gartner (president ICA) and Chris
>> Rizos (president Int Assoc Geodesy) on the road (sometimes there
>> is no better way to get to know someone than to be in a foreign
>> country with them, as you know), and I asked them their own
>> opinions - both said adamantly, 4 year term.  And yes I fully
>> agree.  It takes time to figure out the role, build
>> relationships, and make an impact.
>>
>> Even here at FOSS4G-E I was twice pulled aside by (very very
>> prominent) community members and told/asked to stay on as
>> president for a term like 4 or 5 years, as a stable face and
>> representative of the community.  I agree with them, but limited
>> to 4 years.
>>
>> And for the record, Georg actually asked me to stay on that
>> length, to work with him and our organizations.
>>
>> Those who witnessed my talks here at FOSS4G-E or at AfricaGEO
>> recently also saw a different side of me - the president is
>> actually emerging (that's the best way I can say it).
>>
>> I really appreciate you explaining the demands and assumptions
>> of the position, this really helps to explain how 'awkward' it is
>> for me to have to ask for such things, to function as president.
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Your friend,
>>
>> -jeff
>>
>> PS. I am sitting outside now with Astrid in your beautiful
>> country, she says hi too :)
>>
>>
>>
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