[Board] Board meeting 2014-07-17: Motions

[Jeff McKenna]

As an aside it is great to hear Gerald's input!  Really great.  His
input on the elections process is very correct, and we should make
these changes for next election.

-jeff



On 2014-07-19, 4:38 PM, Fenoy Gerald wrote:
> Hi Daniel and all, please forgive me if I wasn’t clear.
> 
> I have troubles with the confirmation of votes that occur through
> email after each OSGeo Board meetings. If we take a look at the 2
> last votes we had to confirm, we may probably notice that there is
> something which is not functioning here. I think that it may be
> difficult to have a better illustration about this issue in fact.
> 
> For the first one, the meting occurred long time before we can
> confirme our votes. In fact, in this case it was so much late that
> the actions was already taken (« motion: Cameron draft a proposed
> voting process […] »). So, I feel that this vote has no value as
> actions was already done. Why voting on something when this
> something already happened ? (note that this was said in my votes
> at that time, I thought it was enough to understand)
> 
> I guess that for this first example it is now clear, in case I was
> still not enough clear, please let me know...
> 
> The second example was the last board meeting, we took decision
> during the OSGeo Board meeting to have the CM and BM election
> starting the day after. I think it is illustrating the exact same
> thing, that is why I tried to use my privilege to vote -1 on a
> motion. This should mean veto right. Then, why the action was taken
> before the confirmation of the vote.
> 
> I would like to insist here on the fact that there is no issue at
> all about anybody here but only about this vote confirmations ! So
> please let start discussing on this topic and I hope you can make
> me change my mind.
> 
> Anyway, I would also like to point that I do not understand that
> charter members can be elected before the board members, indeed
> this means that the new charter member can become board member the
> same year and can vote also for the next Board. On the other hand,
> if we try a basic comparison with French country for instance, the
> citizens have to wait for certain age for being able to vote. I do
> not ask to force anybody to wait for 18 years at is in France but
> at least one year sounds fair enough. So, I think it makes sense
> that the Board Members are first elected then Charter Member are.
> 
> So to conclude and not bothering anybody with the long email with
> my poor english level. I would still like to say that it was some
> kind of a veto initially but as the vote already started how can we
> stop it now. There is no way to stop it now which is unfortunate.
> 
> Sincerely dedicated to my task, Best regards,
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Le 18 juil. 2014 à 18:49, Daniel Morissette
> <dmorissette at mapgears.com> a écrit :
> 
>> On 14-07-18 9:57 AM, Fenoy Gerald wrote:
>>> 
>>>> * MOTION: launch charter member election followed by board
>>>> election ASAP, with the goal of completing both before
>>>> FOSS4G, with Jorge Sanz as CRO
>>> 
>>> -1 (I would like to make sure that this vote is useless, ha,
>>> and simply to repeat myself again about the fact that we may
>>> wait for the vote to be confirmed before acting, or we remove
>>> this vote, but we should choose something which may make sens)
>>> 
>> 
>> I don't think I understand. Does this -1 really intend to
>> block/stop the charter member and board election process??????
>> 
>> Perhaps you should elaborate on your point because the comment
>> that you wrote is not clear to me. Maybe I am missing some
>> context?
>>