[Board] [OSGeo-Discuss] Polling charter members

[Jeff McKenna]

Hi Cameron,

Yes this morning I re-read my "FOSS4G Advisor Role" proposal from 2011, 
and even I was impressed with it.  It covers a lot of the issues that 
are mentioned lately, by Steven and Darrell, and needs very little 
updating.  I see it was edited back then also by yourself and Markus. 
True, now we must also think of how it relates to all FOSS4G events.

Thanks for the complement!

-jeff



On 2014-09-19 5:09 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote:
> Hi Jeff,
> After sleeping on it, I woke up thinking that I should add a position
> description to the "OSGeo Advisor Role", but I see you have beaten me to it.
> I've just re-read your original Position Description, and I think it is
> a really good. Probably only needs minor tweaking to address a broader
> scope (to include the scope of involvement in small and medium sized
> foss4g events, which will have less budget to cover the expenses of an
> advisor).
>
> On 19/09/2014 10:42 pm, Cameron Shorter wrote:
>> Ok, first draft of wiki page is here:
>> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Conference_Options_2014
>>
>> Please feel free to improve the text, or insert your comments / votes.
>>
>> On 19/09/2014 6:14 pm, Steven Feldman wrote:
>>> Am I the only person who finds it difficult to follow a thread in a
>>> mailing list where postings get repeated continuously as the thread
>>> is replied to (let alone our tendency to post across several lists -
>>> mea culpa)?
>>>
>>> Dare I suggest that we seek a simpler and clearer forum for this
>>> discussion? I’m not suggesting abandoning the lists just using a
>>> better tool for a discussion in which we want to engage a lot of people.
>>> ______
>>> Steven
>>>
>>>
>>> On 19 Sep 2014, at 02:37, Cameron Shorter <cameron.shorter at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:cameron.shorter at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I would agree on that, to start in the wiki. But think, if we want to
>>>> get some input from the charter members, it should be more active and
>>>> structured effort - therefore I propose continue then with google
>>>> forms
>>>>
>>>> Another question: of course, I'm talking about goals and OSGeo future,
>>>> but FOSS4G is one of OSGeo's most important event, it has "some"
>>>> functions, can be decide who it should be organised without knowing,
>>>> what we want to do?
>>>>
>>>> J
>>>>
>>>> 2014-09-19 8:32 GMT+02:00 Bart van den Eijnden <bartvde at osgis.nl
>>>> <mailto:bartvde at osgis.nl>>:
>>>>> Hey Jachym,
>>>>>
>>>>> wasn't Cameron referring specifically to what options we have to
>>>>> "professionalize" FOSS4G organising?
>>>>>
>>>>> And you were talking more about OSGeo's goals etc. ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, I think it makes sense to create some content in a Wiki
>>>>> first, and use
>>>>> that content to create a questionnaire. It's hard to create a good
>>>>> questionnaire from scratch if the solutions haven't been discussed
>>>>> in detail
>>>>> and worked on by multiple people IMHO.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>> Bart
>>>>>
>>>>> On 19 Sep 2014, at 08:02, Jachym Cepicky <jachym.cepicky at gmail.com
>>>>> <mailto:jachym.cepicky at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I proposed to prepare Google forms for that in other thread. Could
>>>>> have IMHO
>>>>> more valuable output
>>>>>
>>>>> ?
>>>>>
>>>>> J
>>>>>
>>>>> Send from cellphone
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Jachym Cepicky
>>>>> e-mail: jachym.cepicky gmail com
>>>>> URL: http://les-ejk.cz
>>>>> GPG: http://les-ejk.cz/pgp/JachymCepicky.pgp
>>>>>
>>>>> Give your code freedom with PyWPS -http://pywps.wald.intevation.org
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sep 19, 2014 3:38 AM, "Cameron Shorter"
>>>>> <cameron.shorter at gmail.com <mailto:cameron.shorter at gmail.com>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'll volunteer to start a wiki collating options for the FOSS4G
>>>>>> future,
>>>>>> with sections that people can add comments into.
>>>>>> I should have something up for review and contributions within 24
>>>>>> hours.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 18/09/2014 7:04 PM, Maria Antonia Brovelli wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear All
>>>>>> I agree completely with Margherita. The most of people are asking
>>>>>> themselves what it is happening.
>>>>>> Please who was and is involved, please write the history of what has
>>>>>> happened on a wiki page. When the plot is finalised the charter
>>>>>> members
>>>>>> vote.
>>>>>> Maria
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Prof. Maria Antonia Brovelli
>>>>>> Vice Rector for Como Campus - Politecnico di Milano
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Public Participation GIS: a FOSS architecture enabling field-data
>>>>>> collection
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/17538947.2014.887150#.UwPVuIVnibF
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ISPRS WG IV/5 "Web and Cloud Based Geospatial Services and
>>>>>> Applications" -
>>>>>> Co-chair - OSGeo Charter Member - ICA - OSGeo Advisory Board
>>>>>> Member - SIFET
>>>>>> Scientific Commitee Member
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Via Natta, 12/14 - 22100 COMO (ITALIA)
>>>>>> Tel. +39-031-3327336 - Mob. +39-328-0023867 - fax. +39-031-3327321
>>>>>> e-mail1: maria.brovelli at polimi.it
>>>>>> e-mail2: prorettrice at como.polimi.it
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>> Da: discuss-bounces at lists.osgeo.org
>>>>>> <discuss-bounces at lists.osgeo.org> per
>>>>>> conto di Margherita Di Leo <diregola at gmail.com>
>>>>>> Inviato: giovedì 18 settembre 2014 10.13
>>>>>> A: Jachym Cepicky
>>>>>> Cc: <discuss at lists.osgeo.org>; conference; osgeo-board List; Steven
>>>>>> Feldman
>>>>>> Oggetto: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Board] Polling charter members
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear All,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 10:51 PM, Jachym Cepicky
>>>>>> <jachym.cepicky at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just noting,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> discussion about relationship between LocationTech and OSGeo is here
>>>>>>> since 2012 (IIRC). That many people did not pain attention to it
>>>>>>> (actually including myself up to certain time), is not fault of OSGeo
>>>>>>> .. or LocationTech.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's just actually boring topic. We are community of (mostly)
>>>>>>> developers and users of FOSS4G (not conference, but software in this
>>>>>>> case). This sounds like politics .. who would pay attention? So, now
>>>>>>> we are here, things are happening, we can finally talk to whole
>>>>>>> community, because of this IMHO *is* important topic - two big
>>>>>>> organisations are trying to find a way, how to cooperate in the
>>>>>>> future
>>>>>>> for better free and open source software for geospatial! This is
>>>>>>> good.
>>>>>>> If for nothing else, then for clarifying OSGeo's position.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If anyone is wondering why most charter members remained silent
>>>>>> about the
>>>>>> topic, here i can offer my 2 cents..
>>>>>> It is true that this is a long story, but it's hard to find all the
>>>>>> elements needed for judgement. I'd ask those that have personally
>>>>>> followed
>>>>>> the steps, to kindly fill a wiki page with the most important
>>>>>> facts. Another
>>>>>> thing is that, for those that couldn't make it at FOSS4G, it is (I
>>>>>> believe)
>>>>>> not easy to understand on what exactly the community of charter
>>>>>> members is
>>>>>> being called to express their opinion. What does it mean "to
>>>>>> cooperate" and
>>>>>> what does it imply for the organizations involved? Is it a case by
>>>>>> case
>>>>>> cooperation what you're talking about? why it looks like is the
>>>>>> FOSS4G event
>>>>>> at stake here?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for any pointers
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dr. Margherita DI LEO