[Board] request for letter of support for Jan Hartmann (UvA)

Mon Apr 13 05:18:09 PDT 2015

Jeff, I contacted you as President of OSGeo in such a way that you bring this thing to the attention of the Board. I did the same with George Percivall and there were no problems at all. You didn't understand, even when I tried to explain it, and you are continuing not understanding. Anyway, it doesn't matter. Probably the language divide exists.  Now I know that the procedure is to send directly to the Board and not to the President. And that' s that for that.

But my question now is another one: what are the rules of the Board for deciding about supporting a project or not?
Maxi shares his thoughts, Gerald also, but I'm asking the Board position about this question. 

Many thanks!
Maria

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> Il giorno 13/apr/2015, alle ore 14:06, Jeff McKenna <jmckenna at gatewaygeomatics.com> ha scritto:
> 
> This is a good example of the challenge/stress I was referring to.  In your case both you and another party (private company) contacted me privately to support a bid and I asked repeatedly to request it publicly instead.
> 
> But I agree, steps/guidelines on a wiki page is needed right away for how to request official support for contracts, it is not an easy thing to handle.
> 
> -jeff
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 2015-04-13 8:21 AM, Polimi wrote:
>> I'm happy to see that now the approach of the Board has changed with
>> respect to the past. I asked twice and twice my request was rejected.
>> What is the new policy the Board has in mind? To support always? To
>> support only in some cases? Which cases?
>> Thanks for answering.
>> Best.
>> Maria
>> 
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>> Il giorno 13/apr/2015, alle ore 12:31, Michael Smith
>> <michael.smith.erdc at gmail.com <mailto:michael.smith.erdc at gmail.com>> ha
>> scritto:
>> 
>>> I agree with Maxi. I see no reason not to support this letter.  And I
>>> agree with Bart, we would support any group advancing open source
>>> geospatial, even if they were competing.
>>> 
>>> Mike
>>> 
>>> ----
>>> Michael Smith
>>> OSGeo Foundation Treasurer
>>> treasurer at osgeo.org <mailto:treasurer at osgeo.org>
>>> 
>>> From: Jachym Cepicky <jachym.cepicky at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:jachym.cepicky at gmail.com>>
>>> Date: Monday, April 13, 2015 at 5:08 AM
>>> To: Massimiliano Cannata <massimiliano.cannata at supsi.ch
>>> <mailto:massimiliano.cannata at supsi.ch>>, Bart van den Eijnden
>>> <bartvde at osgis.nl <mailto:bartvde at osgis.nl>>
>>> Cc: OSGeo Board <board at lists.osgeo.org <mailto:board at lists.osgeo.org>>
>>> Subject: Re: [Board] request for letter of support for Jan Hartmann (UvA)
>>> 
>>> Guys, I believe Jeff will have some input to this topic,
>>> 
>>> but in the past, there were different points of views of European
>>> board members and america-based board members.
>>> 
>>> And I would like to read the Jeff's and Michael's opinion to this,
>>> because I feel, they have more fine sense for those kinds of
>>> supporting letters then we in Europe have
>>> 
>>> J
>>> 
>>> po 13. 4. 2015 v 10:13 odesílatel Massimiliano Cannata
>>> <massimiliano.cannata at supsi.ch <mailto:massimiliano.cannata at supsi.ch>>
>>> napsal:
>>> 
>>>    From my point of view there is no issue.
>>> 
>>>    Whoever asks for a support letter which could help in gain funds
>>>    to develop, promote, advance FOSS4G should be supported by OSGeo.
>>>    No exclusion, even if two people are bidding in "competition",
>>>    they could always ask for a letter each and I don't see any conflict.
>>> 
>>>    I strongly believe that We, as the foundation, should always
>>>    support fund raising as one of our primary objective and only
>>>    verify that the proposal is in line with our CoC and mission
>>> 
>>>    Maxi
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>    Il giorno lun 13 apr 2015 alle ore 08:31 Bart van den Eijnden
>>>    <bartvde at osgis.nl <mailto:bartvde at osgis.nl>> ha scritto:
>>> 
>>>        Hi Jachym,
>>> 
>>>        in this case Jan’s “competition” is only research institutes
>>>        from other (non-geo) disciplines, so personally I don’t see
>>>        the issue.
>>> 
>>>        Do you still see an issue given the above?
>>> 
>>>        Best regards,
>>>        Bart
>>> 
>>>>        On 13 Apr 2015, at 07:10, Jachym Cepicky
>>>>        <jachym.cepicky at gmail.com <mailto:jachym.cepicky at gmail.com>>
>>>>        wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>        Hi,
>>>> 
>>>>        Sorry about remaining still. Maybe you already addressed
>>>>        this. But AFAIK the policy is, not to explicitly support
>>>>        anybody's grants/project proposals, because of once you would
>>>>        have to support one project over another, which could cause
>>>>        us a lot of troubles..
>>>> 
>>>>        ?
>>>> 
>>>>        J
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>        On Wed, Apr 8, 2015, 09:59 Bart van den Eijnden
>>>>        <bartvde at osgis.nl <mailto:bartvde at osgis.nl>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>            Hi board,
>>>> 
>>>>            I’ve been contacted by Jan Hartmann from the University
>>>>            of Amsterdam to see if OSGeo can write a letter of
>>>>            support for a large non-profit proposal he is putting
>>>>            together, details are here:
>>>> 
>>>>            http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Uva_letter_of_support
>>>> 
>>>>            The proposal is due May 18th so would be great if we can
>>>>            vote on it in this week's board meeting.
>>>> 
>>>>            TIA.
>>>> 
>>>>            Best regards,
>>>>            Bart
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