[Board] [OSGeo-Conf] Proposed text for an OSGeo Code of Conduct
Carl Reed
creed at opengeospatial.org
Sun Mar 8 03:54:33 PDT 2015
If of use, check out the OGC Principals of Conduct which includes diversity statements. Based on the IETF code.
Cheers
Carl
----- Original Message -----
From: "Cameron Shorter" <cameron.shorter at gmail.com>
To: "Bart van den Eijnden" <bartvde at osgis.nl>, "Jachym Cepicky" <jachym.cepicky at gmail.com>
Cc: "conference_dev" <conference_dev at lists.osgeo.org>, board at lists.osgeo.org
Sent: Friday, March 6, 2015 8:22:51 PM
Subject: Re: [Board] [OSGeo-Conf] Proposed text for an OSGeo Code of Conduct
I'm happy to contribute toward developing an OSGeo Code of Conduct or Diversity Statement if the board would welcome and accept community involvement in developing such a document.
I admit that I've felt disenfranchised and that input from the conference committee into an OSGeo policy would not be welcomed, based on the OSGeo board pushing toward developing a 2nd Diversity Statement, and encouraging the conference committee to develop their own.
I'd be happy to build from Jeff's Diversity Statement, if the board would welcome input (once the OSGeo wiki page is working again - it seems I can't log in and edit).
If the board is set on breaking away from the conference committee, and want to develop their diversity statement in isolation, then please say so, and I'll spend my time elsewhere.
Regards, Cameron
On 5/03/2015 9:50 pm, Bart van den Eijnden wrote:
I can understand the confusion on the conference committee to be honest.
They draft up something, the board “takes” over with their own diversity statement, and then the whole process stops. We need to decide who is in charge here. I’d personally like to see the conference committee take charge but I know this is probably not the consensus.
Best regards,
Bart
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On 05 Mar 2015, at 11:26, Jachym Cepicky < jachym.cepicky at gmail.com > wrote:
Jeff is right. "Waiting and seeing" does not move things a lot, it's just by "doing" (doocracy)
Thanks for your contribution
J
čt 5. 3. 2015 v 4:22 odesílatel David William Bitner < bitner at dbspatial.com > napsal:
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+10000000000
On Mar 4, 2015 8:45 PM, "David Percy" < percyd at pdx.edu > wrote:
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Now that I'm a charter member I can happily nominate and vote for Eli for the board, he would make great contributions, in addition to what he already does!
Thanks for the suggestion, Jeff!
:-)
On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 5:29 PM, Jeff McKenna < jmckenna at gatewaygeomatics.com > wrote:
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Eli,
I am not sure of the purpose of this message. If you decide to 'wait and see' in this world, well nothing will ever get done.
Everyone is working hard and doing their best. My last message to the Conference Committee was to yes put the proposed text in a wiki and bring it to the Board, or, as I said in my message that if you cannot do that, then you can edit the wiki directly that I proposed to the Board[1]; Unfortunately since I said that nothing has happened (the ball was left on the floor).
So I agree, if nothing else happens, the OSGeo Board will move forward with the proposed text in the wiki.
Again, yes, please do put your ideas in the wiki and propose it to the Board.
In terms of tomorrow's meeting, we have some huge topics to decide as a Board, so that should give you time to lead the changes on the wiki. And please next time start the discussions a little earlier than the night before the Board meeting.
If I can leave you tonight with a final thought, it would be: maybe you should consider joining the OSGeo Board, in the next election.
Thanks,
-jeff
On 2015-03-04 9:00 PM, Eli Adam wrote:
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Hi Camille and all,
Thanks to everyone for contributing to what could become an OSGeo Code
of Conduct. I appreciate that knowledgeable people with relevant
backgrounds and experiences have been helping; thanks.
Here is a short recap of what I know of OSGeo CoC and my opinions of
the conversation moving forward.
The OSGeo Board deferred CoC to the conference committee over four
years ago in 2010 [0], where it was discussed and not pursued for
development or adoption [1].
Despite no formal OSGeo policy, over the past several years FOSS4G
LOCs of both the main international conference and some regional
conferences have used CoCs and seem to recognize it as worthwhile.
Some OSGeo Projects (QGIS) have adopted CoCs too.
In October 2014, the OSGeo Board votes to develop a CoC [2].
January 2015, lots of CoC debate and drafting here on the conference
list. Thanks to Cameron for trying to coordinate various ideas into a
coherent manner, including many participants and accessing available
resources relevant to CoCs. Cameron's work helps distill everything
into something appropriate for voting in a Board meeting. Thanks to
everyone for participating and contributing.
February, the OSGeo board takes up a Diversity Statement [3] and on
the wiki [4]. Some aspects of it are similar to a CoC.
My opinion of moving the conversation forward is to "wait and see"
what the OSGeo Board does. The item has fallen into the "Items from
past meetings" section [5], which is rarely reached due to lack of
time. Depending on what the Board does (or doesn't do), it makes
sense for the conference committee to take up the issue again in an
appropriate scope (whole foundation or international FOSS4G), perhaps
putting something like the proposed text Cameron put together on a
Board agenda for a vote. My opinion is that the conversation has
stopped. Tomorrow's Board meeting [5] should give some indication of
that.
[0] http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/board/2010-November/008511.html
[1] http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/conference_dev/2010-November/001235.html
[2] http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Meeting_2014-10-16
[3] http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/board/2015-February/012456.html
[4] http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Diversity
[5] http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Meeting_2015-03-05
Thanks for everyone contributing and best regards, Eli
On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 6:02 AM, Camille Acey < camille at boundlessgeo.com > wrote:
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I agree with this statement and would be interested to hear how this conversation is moving forward.
Thanks,
Camille
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On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 3:31 PM, Cameron Shorter < cameron.shorter at gmail.com > wrote:
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Hi Jeff, all,
Thanks for invitation to the board meeting [1] to discuss a code of conduct. Unfortunately I can't make it, my enthusiasm for OSGeo wains at 2am (which is the timeslot for me). Maybe there are others who have been involved in the conference email list discuss who will join in.
So I'll add my comments in advance:
1. I strongly believe there should be ONLY ONE OSGeo endorsed and recommended Code of Conduct / Diversity Statement. It makes it simpler and hence easier to apply.
2. Following on from 1), other OSGeo communities should be invited to contribute to the Code of Conduct / Diversity Statement. In particular, the conference committee should be invited to contribute.
4. I suggest building on prior best practice documentation rather than writing our own from scratch. Many of these prior documents have already gone through multiple review cycles and it makes sense to build upon that expertise. There have been a number of referenced best practice documents referenced. Carl has just suggested an OGC reference which is good (and built upon prior material).
6. There has been valuable and insightful suggestions on this topic already on the conference thread. I suggest building upon those comments as well.
5. David William Bitner valuably suggested documenting what we want to achieve, then use that as a basis for writing. (see comment below). I suggest what we want such a document to cover:
* Recognise that OSGeo has a DIVERSE community
* Set expectation that people should act RESPECTFULLY toward each other
* Outline a process for RECOGNISING, REPORTING and ADDRESSING incidents which can be referenced by those dealing with incidents. (Dealing with incidents is often a hostile situation, and having a process to reference can greatly help the people doing the hard job of mediating.)
6. While I like the concept of the word "Diversity", I think it is currently confusing in "Diversity Statement" as a heading. "Diversity" is broad in meaning, and can mean Diversity in software choice, food selection, processes followed, etc, etc. We should select a heading relevant to what is being described - which is an expectation of "behaviour" or "conduct". "Code of Conduct", Principles of Conduct" better describe what should be covered.
[1] http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Meeting_2015-02-05
On 5/02/2015 3:51 am, Carl Reed wrote:
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Venka et. al.
You might be interested in the OGC Principals of Conduct which is itself based on the IETF Code of Conduct.
http://www.opengeospatial.org/ogc/policies/conduct
Perhaps this might be helpful.
Regards
Carl Reed
-----Original Message----- From: Venkatesh Raghavan
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 6:03 AM
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Subject: Re: [Board] Proposed text for an OSGeo Code of Conduct
On 2015/02/04 21:45, Jeff McKenna wrote:
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Yes I agree, which is why I believe the OSGeo Foundation needs a very simple Diversity statement, that says everyone can expect an open and respectful environment (see my original draft at http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php?title=Diversity&oldid=81445 ). Notice how there is no mention of policing etc in that version. Your discussions on a Code of Conduct for FOSS4G are very separate in my opinion. In any case, the OSGeo Board will discuss this in tomorrow's meeting if you would like to attend and share your thoughts, all are welcome ( http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Meeting_2015-02-05 ).
I agree that any statement by OSGeo foundation in general and
statements pertaining to events produced/hosted/presented by
OSGeo Foundation should be kept separate.
Venka
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-jeff
On 2015-02-04 6:28 AM, Cameron Shorter wrote:
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I'm expanding this Code of Conduct thread to include the OSGeo Board,
who are proposing an alternative Code of Conduct:
http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Diversity
I strongly suggest that we should try to have only one OSGeo Code of
Conduct / Diversity Statement as it reduces confusion and is easier to
implement. There is beauty in simplicity. Jeff are you suggesting that
we have two? (One for conferences, and another for OSGeo?)
On 3/02/2015 7:09 am, Jeff McKenna wrote:
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I would like Board members to edit that wiki page directly over the
next few days, and then we can discuss this at the Board meeting on
Thursday. My goal is to have a new "/diversity" page linked from the
main osgeo.org site.
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Jeff, I assume that since you have proposed an alternative text, that
you have issue with the prior proposed text? (as in the bottom of this
email thread). What do you see to be the limitations of the prior
proposed text?
Also, in your email, are you requesting that only board members edit the
Diversity statement, or is it open to other community members to edit as
well?
On 4/02/2015 7:16 am, Bart van den Eijnden wrote:
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Interesting, MapZen will only sponsor events which have a strong COC
in place:
https://mapzen.com/blog/mapzen-code-of-conduct
Best regards,
Bart
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On 25 Jan 2015, at 22:10, Cameron Shorter < cameron.shorter at gmail.com
<mailto: cameron.shorter at gmail.com >> wrote:
Thanks Eli,
I like your list of characteristics. I'd add:
* Have a CoC in the first place, which breaks down to:
** Ensure conferences remember / realise that a CoC should be in
place. (Add it to our cookbook [1] and bid process)
** Make it easy to apply a CoC by referencing an existing document.
(Complete this discussion and provide a best practice document that
can be referenced).
I acknowledge your point re over-doing sexualized images discussion.
I like the qgis CoC, and suggest that if we can make adding a CoC
easy (by providing generic text), then we should add having a CoC a
requirement for OSGeo graduation. I've added a placemarker into the
proposed text for the next OSGeo Project Graduation Checklist. [2]
[1] http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G_Handbook
[2] http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Project_Graduation_Checklist#processes.4
On 26/01/2015 5:53 am, Eli Adam wrote:
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Code of Conduct specific wording is less important than these
characteristics:
* Being present (i.e. not implied but clearly stated)
* Appearing sincere
* Being sincere
* Having reasonable people implementing it
In that regard, the similar texts you listed were all fine.
Generally, I think that we are spending too much time and emphasis on
sexualized images. We are in the open source geospatial software,
geospatial standards, open data, education, and related fields; 95%+
of all presentations and other content can be done entirely
successfully without images of people at all. For the 5% of cases
that images of people substantively contribute to the presentation,
err on the side of caution, "If in doubt, leave it out".
I like the idea of the conference committee starting with a CoC for
conferences and the Board possibly modifying and expanding it to other
areas of OSGeo or projects establishing their own (see QGIS,
http://qgis.org/en/site/getinvolved/governance/codeofconduct/codeofconduct.html )
I don't think that 2015 FOSS4G needs any input, they already seem to
have it under control, http://2015.foss4g.org/about/codeofconduct/ ,
and there was nothing about a CoC in the bid. We should be focusing
2016 and beyond.
Thanks for working on guiding this process Cameron.
Best regards, Eli
On Sat, Jan 24, 2015 at 3:12 AM, Cameron Shorter
< cameron.shorter at gmail.com <mailto: cameron.shorter at gmail.com >> wrote:
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Hi David,
Thanks for starting this discussion. When you opened the
discussion, you
very kindly offered to help set a Code of Conduct in place. How do you
suggest we move toward concluding the discussion and getting a Code of
Conduct in place?
Do you have a timeframe in mind for this? I assume we should try to
make a
CoC available for FOSS4G 2015 if they wish to make use of one?
Peter, thanks for you comments on proposed text.
Is there anyone else with an interest in influencing the final
text? If so,
please speak up.
Which is the better version of a CoC?
1. Prior foss4g: https://2015.foss4g-na.org/code-conduct
2. OReilly: http://www.oreilly.com/conferences/code-of-conduct.html
(copied
below)
3. My revised version (copied below)
4. Something else
On 19/01/2015 9:16 am, Cameron Shorter wrote:
Hi David,
I'm happy to move proposed CoC text across to a wiki. If requested,
I'll
copy across now (within 48 hours), or can wait till there has been
further
discussion.
Also happy to expand the discussion to other lists, although I
expect the
conference committee is probably the logical primary point for
discussion,
as a CoC is most applicable to conferences. The board would need to
sign off
on a CoC and should be invited to comment.
Re identifying what should be in a code of conduct. I've attempted
to start
on that in the list of items I've attempted to address, listed below.
I have presented the draft CoC (below), as I find it is often easier to
start with a "straw man" which can be picked apart, rather than talking
vaguely in conceptual levels. However, I'm not wedded to the text,
and hope
to see constructive criticism of the ideas, text and structure.
On 19/01/2015 3:46 am, David William Bitner wrote:
I really want to thank everyone here for engaging in this issue. I do
appreciate all the different voices that have contributed to this
conversation -- they all certainly speak to the diversity of
thoughts and
experiences that we already have in this community.
Cameron -- thank you very much for putting forward a first draft of a
potential CoC for us to use. Before drafting and wordsmithing a CoC
I want
to step back and make sure we answer a few questions that would
certainly
impact how a CoC gets written. When we get to the point of drafting, we
should certainly do so on the wiki (or other trackable
collaborative medium)
rather than in an email thread.
With some of the wording in this draft as well as seeing the
discussion from
the last Board Meeting, is the conference committee the correct
venue for
this discussion or should this be at the Board level so that this
applies to
all OSGeo activities (mailing lists, events, etc)? I am certain
that many of
the same people would remain engaged in helping draft a Code of Conduct
either for the foundation as a whole or just for our events, but this
certainly impacts the scope and wording required in a draft.
Many of the comments that I read as against having a CoC seem to
stem from
people wondering what does a CoC solve. Sadly, having a CoC does
not "solve"
anything. There will still be issues. A CoC simply provides one
tool for us
to help resolve those issues when they come up as well as providing a
proactive statement that we aim to be a welcoming and diverse
community to
hopefully prevent some of those issues in the first place. A CoC is
not the
end point of diversity initiatives, but it is a very low hanging
fruit to
start with. Other initiatives that I know have been tried that we
should
continue to look at their effectiveness include author blind public
program
review, scholarship initiatives, proactively seeking out diversity
in key
notes, and many more things that we haven't tried.
On 18/01/2015 2:33 pm, Cameron Shorter wrote:
Following on from this email thread, I've drafted a proposed Code of
Conduct, where I've aimed to address:
* Be concise (concise words get read more)
* Cover key messages
* Include an escalation process for dealing with both minor and
major issues
* Ensure key terms are understood (in particular reference to
definition of
sexualised images)
* Couch in positive language
Tickbox version:
* I agree to act respectfully toward others in line with the OSGeo
Code of
Conduct.
OSGeo Code of Conduct:
This Code of Conduct collates the collective values adopted by our
OSGeo
community which baselines the behaviour we do and don’t support to
ensure
OSGeo is a safe and productive environment for all.
We invite everyone to be respectful to all, regardless of race,
gender, age,
sexual orientation, disability, physical appearance, national origin,
ethnicity, religion, or ideas. We do not tolerate harassment of
others in
any form. Examples of harassment include offensive comments, verbal
threats
or demands, sexualized images in public spaces, intimidation, stalking,
harassing photography or recording, sustained disruption of events, and
unwelcome physical contact or sexual attention. [1]
We expect all participants to follow the Code of Conduct when
involved in
OSGeo activities. This includes conferences, related social events, and
online forums. Participants violating this Code of Conduct will be
asked to
desist and/or make amends. For gross or continual violations,
offenders may
be expelled from the event or forum without a refund, and/or banned
from
future events or other forums.
Participants are encouraged to bring any concerns to the attention
of event
staff, the forum, forum leader, or OSGeo Board. We thank all for
helping
keep OSGeo welcoming, respectful, and friendly for all.
[1] Examples of inappropriate sexualised environments are described
here:
https://www.humanrights.gov.au/publications/sexual-harassment-code-practice-what-sexual-harassment
On 10/01/2015 9:59 pm, Cameron Shorter wrote:
Looking around at various Conference "Codes of Conduct", I found the
O'Reilly definition to be eloquently worded, and less threatening to
potential attendees. (Although I still can't find a clear definition of
"sexual images".)
http://www.oreilly.com/conferences/code-of-conduct.html
Code of Conduct
At O'Reilly, we assume that most people are intelligent and
well-intended,
and we're not inclined to tell people what to do. However, we want
every
O'Reilly conference to be a safe and productive environment for
everyone. To
that end, this code of conduct spells out the behavior we support
and don't
support at conferences. The core of our approach is this:
We don't condone harassment or offensive behavior, at our
conference venues
or anywhere. It's counter to our company values. More importantly, it's
counter to our values as human beings.
We're voicing our strong, unequivocal support of appropriate
behavior by all
participants at technical events, including all O'Reilly
conferences. We
invite you to help us make each O'Reilly conference a place that is
welcoming and respectful to all participants, regardless of race,
gender,
age, sexual orientation, disability, physical appearance, national
origin,
ethnicity, or religion. So that everyone can focus on the
conference itself,
and the great networking and community richness that happens when
we get
together in person, we will not tolerate harassment of conference
participants in any form—in person or online.
Examples of harassment include offensive comments, verbal threats or
demands, sexualized images in public spaces, intimidation, stalking,
harassing photography or recording, sustained disruption of sessions or
events, and unwelcome physical contact or sexual attention.
We expect all participants—attendees, speakers, sponsors, and
volunteers—to
follow the Code of Conduct during the conference. This includes
conference-related social events at off-site locations, and in related
online communities and social media. Participants asked to stop any
harassing behavior are expected to comply immediately. Conference
participants violating this Code of Conduct may be expelled from the
conference without a refund, and/or banned from future O'Reilly
events, at
the discretion of O'Reilly Media.
Please bring any concerns to the immediate attention of the event
staff, or
contact our VP of Conferences, Gina Blaber at gina at oreilly.com . We
thank our
participants for your help in keeping the event welcoming,
respectful, and
friendly to all participants.
Read the blog post by Tim O'Reilly that is the basis of our
functional code
of conduct for all O'Reilly conferences.
Thanks to the Lean Startup folks and the jsconf.us folks, whose
Codes of
Conduct inspired some changes to our own.
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