[Board] Responding to emails

Wed May 6 05:35:15 PDT 2015

Hey Daniel,

I was not in any way saying that Cameron has not done most of these already. Just wanted to briefly outline how I handle traffic on the e-mail list.

Personally I don’t feel that clear e-mails are disrespectful in any way, I’d rather have people be clear on what they expect of us and when. But that’s my 2 cents.

Best regards,
Bart

> On 06 May 2015, at 14:22, Daniel Morissette <dmorissette at mapgears.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Bart,
> 
> While I fully agree with your recommendations in general, I don't think anyone can blame Cameron of not being clear in his communications. IMHO those recommendations were already applied in his emails and I don't think he can be much more explicit than he has been.
> 
> Don't you think that if one adds even more explicit deadlines and action requests as you suggest then it will just increase the risk of being perceived as "disrespectful" of board volunteers time, to reuse the exact word that was used in this thread already?
> 
> Daniel
> 
> 
> On 2015-05-06 7:08 AM, Cameron Shorter wrote:
>> Thanks Bart, wise advise as always.
>> Cheers, Cameron.
>> 
>> On 6/05/2015 4:40 pm, Bart van den Eijnden wrote:
>>> Hey Cameron,
>>> 
>>> my suggestions would be:
>>> 
>>> 1) make it really clear what your deadline is for responses (maybe
>>> also use e-mail priority or something very visible in the subject in
>>> case of urgency)
>>> 2) make it clear if you need the board to vote on something (you can
>>> ask one of us to raise a motion) or you just need an opinion / opinions
>>> 
>>> In the case of opinions, I normally don’t respond to something a
>>> previous board member has said if I’m in general consent. If I
>>> disagree or have other points, I’ll chime in, but otherwise I’ll be
>>> silent.
>>> 
>>> Best regards,
>>> Bart
>>> 
>>>> On 05 May 2015, at 22:43, Cameron Shorter <cameron.shorter at gmail.com
>>>> <mailto:cameron.shorter at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Jeff, OSGeo Board,
>>>> I'm finding it difficult to engage effectively with the OSGeo Board
>>>> in a timely manner and am looking for suggestions on how to improve that.
>>>> 
>>>> Is the OSGeo-Board email list still the best forum to discuss ideas?
>>>> Would it be easier if I wrote more concisely, and less often? (Try to
>>>> increase signal-to-noise ratio)?
>>>> Maybe limit to specific proposals: "I propose the OSGeo board support
>>>> ..."?
>>>> Maybe not ask as much of the OSGeo Board?
>>>> 
>>>> I'm asking following on from discussion about the Open LIDAR Letter,
>>>> which had significant discussion, across a number of email lists, as
>>>> well as private discussions. I'm hoping we can learn and improve.
>>>> 
>>>> Next, I'm hoping we can finalise an OSGeo Code of Conduct / Diversity
>>>> Statement, and am interested to know whether board members want to be
>>>> involved in this? I'm hoping that there is still sufficient energy to
>>>> take this through to completion.
>>>> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Diversity
>>>> 
>>>> On 5/05/2015 9:57 am, Cameron Shorter wrote:
>>>>> Hi Jeff, as per below, I note that you prefer to discuss emails in
>>>>> public. I'm cool with that.
>>>>> 
>>>>> In this case, I emailed yourself, CC public board list. I followed
>>>>> up with a private reminder email as I thought you might have
>>>>> forgotten the email, or lost it in an email folder somewhere. (I
>>>>> note you are usually more responsive).
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks for responding with your thoughts. It helps to understand
>>>>> where you are coming from rather than guessing to know if you have
>>>>> received the email or not.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards, Cameron
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 5/05/2015 8:36 AM, Jeff McKenna wrote:
>>>>>> As you already know (from now years of seeing me in this position),
>>>>>> I don't send official e-mails on behalf of the entire OSGeo
>>>>>> foundation because of some offlist pings; I request that we discuss
>>>>>> next steps (if any?) for the Board, or that you made a request to
>>>>>> the OSGeo Board for next steps, and we can discuss openly.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -jeff
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 2015-04-28 5:56 AM, Cameron Shorter wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi Jeff,
>>>>>>> Thanks for adding the cover letter to the LiDAR Open Letter.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The second part of this motion was for the OSGeo President to
>>>>>>> email the
>>>>>>> letter to the OGC, ESRI and ASPRS. (Suggested email addresses are
>>>>>>> toward
>>>>>>> the bottom of this email thread).
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Would you mind CCing a public archived email list (probably the board
>>>>>>> list) so that we have an official record of the Open Letter being
>>>>>>> delivered. (Alternatively, you can forward, or notify the list
>>>>>>> instead).
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hopefully any response you receive will also be sent to the public
>>>>>>> list.
>>>>>>> If not, can you please ask if you can share the response publicly.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Cameron
>>>>> --
>>>>> Cameron Shorter,
>>>>> Software and Data Solutions Manager
>>>>> LISAsoft
>>>>> Suite 112, Jones Bay Wharf,
>>>>> 26 - 32 Pirrama Rd, Pyrmont NSW 2009
>>>>> 
>>>>> P +61 2 9009 5000,  W www.lisasoft.com <http://www.lisasoft.com/>,
>>>>> F +61 2 9009 5099
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> Cameron Shorter,
>>>> Software and Data Solutions Manager
>>>> LISAsoft
>>>> Suite 112, Jones Bay Wharf,
>>>> 26 - 32 Pirrama Rd, Pyrmont NSW 2009
>>>> 
>>>> P +61 2 9009 5000,  Wwww.lisasoft.com,  F +61 2 9009 5099
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>> Cameron Shorter,
>> Software and Data Solutions Manager
>> LISAsoft
>> Suite 112, Jones Bay Wharf,
>> 26 - 32 Pirrama Rd, Pyrmont NSW 2009
>> 
>> P +61 2 9009 5000,  Wwww.lisasoft.com,  F +61 2 9009 5099
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