[Board] [Marketing] motion: marketing committee chair

Peter Batty peter at ebatty.com
Thu May 12 13:57:05 PDT 2016


I am here, I missed Jody's original email, as with others I am busy but
remain interested in helping out on the marketing committee as I can. As
others have noted, it has been dormant for a while. Marc I encourage you to
take a lead on pushing OSGeo marketing forward as you see fit.

I vote +1 on Jody's motions - thanks Cameron for all your efforts, and
welcome Marc!

Cheers,
    Peter.

On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 12:02 PM, Marc Vloemans <marcvloemans1 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Uh, a committee is not a mailing list IMHO, ever! It is a group of active
> participants with added value to each other. Not a passive special interest
> group. Everyone who brings something to the table is more than welcome.
>
> The discussion regarding my involvement tends to go in circles (although I
> see it also as a positive and active interest in the marketing function),
> it leads to increased chaos which is IMHO leading us nowhere. Somebody is
> needed to act as committee chair, a central hub and address for funding
> requests and the like. And I 'happened' to be around ;-)
>
> In any other organisation, I should (!) normally know what is the next
> step. Structure and processes without too much ambiguity. At the moment I
> am ping-ponging between various individuals for yes/no vote, yes/no
> structured marketing approach and yes/no commitment&support from Board (as
> a total) and Committee. No wonder the marketing function has deteriorated
> over the past years.
>
> Luckily various individuals have expressed support via lists and direct
> messages. So I will take my cue and motivation from them. Jody's Mail for
> voting has taken way too long to be answered and the answers/comments
> generated in turn more questions. I refuse to explain myself to individuals
> any further in terms of experience and knowledge per individual email,
> please visit my LinkedIn profile or ask others in the community. It is
> becoming ridiculous and demotivating. And there is an end to my patience
> and politeness.
>
> Therefor, I am going to do it my way, guys. My time, my priorities. And
> whoever joins in is very very very welcome! Whoever has advice has both my
> ears and attention. Whoever has constructive criticism is heard. Whoever
> spends time is a champ and deserves the stage. Whoever reaps the fruits of
> my and others' volunteer work is quite welcome to it.
>
> But whoever is throwing sand in the machine, I don't have time for. I
> rather spend time on working towards a more professional approach of the
> marketing function, show others what it entails by doing it (like others
> have shown me what coding entailed) and be 'part of the solution, not the
> problem'.
>
> Vriendelijke groet,
> Marc Vloemans
>
>
> > Op 12 mei 2016 om 18:32 heeft Alex M <tech_dev at wildintellect.com> het
> volgende geschreven:
> >
> > I think you're missing the historical way in which this works. Anyone
> > can join the Marketing committee and add themselves to the list of
> > members. Can't really recall the process for making people Voting
> > members on $ issues.
> >
> > Most of the existing committee members are simply to busy now on other
> > parts of OSGeo. So by all means add new members. If you need some sort
> > of vote to get the new Chair in, sure we can do that.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Alex
> >
> > PS: I'm mostly here to provide context on history now, these days I'm
> > mostly doing SAC work.
> >
> >> On 05/12/2016 01:05 AM, Marc VLOEMANS wrote:
> >> Thanks Venka,
> >>
> >> This exercise and discussion (other thread) is actually cleaning up the
> >> list post hoc. Which is a preferable and elegant way of doing so.
> >>
> >> However, without any remit to do so I am not touching the memberlist
> with a
> >> barge pole out of fear of becoming the Benevolent Marketing Dictator.
> >>
> >> Marc
> >>
> >> Kind regards,
> >>
> >> Marc Vloemans
> >>
> >> Mobile +31(0)651 844262
> >> LinkedIn: http://nl.linkedin.com/in/marcvloemans
> >> Twitter: http://twitter.com/marcvloemans
> >> http://www.slideshare.net/marcvloemans
> >>
> >>
> >> 2016-05-12 9:50 GMT+02:00 Venkatesh Raghavan <
> raghavan at media.osaka-cu.ac.jp>
> >> :
> >>
> >>> Ms. Daniele Nascimento (my former student) is
> >>> also presently inactive in the Marketing Committee.
> >>> The Committee member list at [1] needs to be updated.
> >>>
> >>> Venka
> >>> [1] http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Marketing_Committee <
> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Marketing_Committee>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 2016/05/12 16:19, Jeroen Ticheler wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi all,
> >>> I would like to also step back from the marketing committee. I can't
> give it the attention it needs.
> >>> Cheers, Jeroen
> >>>
> >>> GeoCat Bridge for ArcGIS allows instant publishing of data and
> metadata on GeoServer, MapServer, PostGIS and GeoNetwork. Visit
> http://geocat.net for details.
> >>> _________________________
> >>> Jeroen Ticheler
> >>> GeoCat bv
> >>> Veenderweg 13
> >>> 6721 WD Bennekom
> >>> Tel: +31 (0)6 81286572http://geocat.net
> >>>
> >>> Op 12 mei 2016 om 09:10 heeft Jody Garnett <jody.garnett at gmail.com> <
> jody.garnett at gmail.com> het volgende geschreven:
> >>>
> >>> I offered to join a few months ago, as has Marc, but the website does
> not reflect this - the wiki lists the following members:
> >>> Cameron Shorter, Chair
> >>> Alex Mandel
> >>> Arnulf Christl
> >>> Jeroen Ticheler
> >>> Jo Cook
> >>> Nicolas Bozon
> >>> Peter Batty
> >>> Daniele Nascimento
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Jody Garnett
> >>>
> >>> On 11 May 2016 at 23:09, nicolas bozon <nicolas.bozon at gmail.com> <
> nicolas.bozon at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On 30/04/2016 3:20 am, Jody Garnett wrote:
> >>> To keep up with current events I would like to make two motions:
> >>>
> >>> - MOT1: Thanks Cameron for his service (thank you) as Marketting chair
> >>>
> >>> +1
> >>> Thank you Cameron for long and good service as committee chair
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> - MOT2: Accept Marc Vloeman's offer volunteer for this role - and
> nominate him for this position.
> >>>
> >>> -0
> >>> While i warmly welcome Jody and Marc in the Committee, i am surprised
> by the lack of reaction or our committee members.
> >>> Before pushing motions and nominating a new chair, we should first
> ensure that we have enough active voting members IMHO.
> >>> I suggest we may postpone this motion in order to first 'upgrade'
> memberships  and hopefully get a descent 'quorum' anytime.
> >>>
> >>> Best,
> >>>
> >>> Nick
> >
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