[Board] discussion on osgeo projects, osgeo community and incubation

[Jody Garnett]

I am happy to have a meeting about this; I do ask that the broader story of
communication, and what osgeo projects are for be considered.


--
Jody Garnett

On 1 August 2017 at 08:43, Venkatesh Raghavan <venka.osgeo at gmail.com> wrote:

> On 8/2/2017 12:32 AM, Jody Garnett wrote:
>
>> That is the branding for the incubation committee.
>>
>
> Well, it seems that neither me not Helena approve this
> unilateral decision by the incubation committee.
>
> So, either we maintain status quo regarding project
> categorization or have the board voting to approve
> any change.
>
> Venka
>
>
>
>> --
>> Jody Garnett
>>
>> On 1 August 2017 at 08:24, Venkatesh Raghavan <venka.osgeo at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Comments below;
>>>
>>> On 8/2/2017 12:09 AM, Helena Mitasova wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Aug 1, 2017, at 10:27 AM, Venkatesh Raghavan <venka.osgeo at gmail.com>
>>>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Comments below;
>>>>>
>>>>> On 8/1/2017 11:17 PM, Jody Garnett wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I am staring a new thread so the marketing committee can focus on the
>>>>>> printing deadline for boston.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Projects are starting to update to the new branding which is great -
>>>>>> we
>>>>>> have two branding available:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - https://github.com/OSGeo/osgeo/tree/master/incubation/project
>>>>>> - https://github.com/OSGeo/osgeo/tree/master/incubation/community
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Projects that are part of our incubation process fall under community
>>>>>> projects,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> who and when made a decision about this?
>>>>
>>>>
>>> And, I also see the "Project Incubation" logo at
>>> https://github.com/OSGeo/osgeo/blob/master/incubation/OSGeo_
>>> incubation.svg
>>>
>>> Let us continue to use it to provide visibility to projects
>>> being incubated.
>>>
>>> Venka
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> they have met our standards for being open source, spatial and
>>>>
>>>>> participatory and are being promoted as part of our foundation along
>>>>>> side
>>>>>> their fellow community projects pgrouting and geowebcache.
>>>>>> .
>>>>>> For reference the prior branding is here
>>>>>> https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_Community_Projects#Compari
>>>>>> son_with_Incubation
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> I propose the continued use of the same branding shown in the URL
>>>>> above with projects categorized as "OSGeo Project", "OSGeo Incubation
>>>>> Project" and "OSGeo Community Project”.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> this is exactly what I asked for at the meeting at GetInteractive
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Any change from previous categorization would require the approval
>>>>> of the board. I do not recall when such a change was decided and
>>>>> how it was approved.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> I totally agree - see my note above,
>>>>
>>>> Helena
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Best
>>>>>
>>>>> Venka
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The larger story is the focus not on our foundation, but on the
>>>>>> software
>>>>>> projects and outreach.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * As such the incubation process is no longer called out on our
>>>>>> website
>>>>>> (or
>>>>>> in our branding) because it does not have any significance to website
>>>>>> visitors. Incubation is an internal process of our software foundation
>>>>>> - it
>>>>>> does not earn its keep introducing a "third branding" if we cannot
>>>>>> explain
>>>>>> succinctly what it actually means for potential users of the software.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * The board introduced the idea of community projects in response to a
>>>>>> call
>>>>>> to be more inclusive and allow innovation
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * Including more projects in our community does not detract from the
>>>>>> projects that were already in our community. We are doing more for
>>>>>> software
>>>>>> projects at OSGeo to help everyone.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We have been avoiding a difficult conversation on osgeo project
>>>>>> quality
>>>>>> on
>>>>>> and off since January. At our most recent F2F meeting we took some
>>>>>> action
>>>>>> items to hear a report from Maxi and Jeff McKenna (in Boston? details
>>>>>> still
>>>>>> be arranged). The question of what we have to offer community projects
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> osgeo projects, and what we expect in return, should be considered in
>>>>>> one
>>>>>> go to be fair to everyone.
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Jody Garnett
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>> Earth, and Atmospheric Sciences
>>>> and Center for Geospatial Analytics
>>>> North Carolina State University
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