[Board] Fwd: How to retire membership status?
Cameron Shorter
cameron.shorter at gmail.com
Fri Dec 7 12:26:48 PST 2018
Sarah, thank you for sharing. I find it very sad when people leave a
community because of fractures within that community. I'm sorry to see
you leave. At some point I want to collate my thoughts related to
community and diversity in an essay. I'm struggling to prioritise enough
time to do the topic justice.
Maxi, while Sarah has very kindly let us know that she is leaving our
community, and explained why, I strongly suspect many more people have
silently left. I feel the number of people emailing our discuss email
list has dropped, and I suspect that confrontational emails have
contributed to that. (I've deliberately limited the CC list to the osgeo
board, in line with Sarah's original email). Writing or improving a Code
of Conduct is a significant undertaking and can be emotionally draining,
as there are often very strong opinions needing to be considered, and
there is a track record of people involved being personally attacked.
I'd suggest such an undertaking is beyond the scope of being a volunteer
board member, although board members would be welcomed within a Code of
Conduct committee. You might also want to volunteer your time to
contribute toward a Code of Conduct committee?
Maria, I applaud your commitment toward wanting to improve our Code of
Conduct. I was on the FOSS4G-Oceania committee and am happy to
facilitate insight into our initiatives into diversity if interested. Re
your statement "things are being done to PREVENT ..." While I'd love to
"prevent" Code-Of-Conduct violations, I think the best we can do is
"reduce" and "mitigate the impacts". Us humans are beautifully
complicated and flawed and we don't always get things right.
Steven Feldman summarised this well in a FOSS4G presentation on Diversity:
https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1cMfFfrgpk1Yqw_P8NfldlG80tvzcnI0U13u81KR7sOU/edit
Warm regards, Cameron
On 8/12/18 12:15 am, Massimiliano Cannata wrote:
> Astrid,
> I have never intended to insinuate that. I consider you an excellent
> person, and please excuse me if this was your feeling.
>
> I just wanted to point out that this fact requires to be appropriately
> addressed, and since a long time already passed without any feedback,
> I have the impression that it could have just been let flown away...
>
> Looking forward for the board to promptly addresse the case and act.
>
> Maxi
>
>
>
>
> Il giorno ven 7 dic 2018, 13:05 Astrid Emde (OSGeo)
> <astrid_emde at osgeo.org <mailto:astrid_emde at osgeo.org>> ha scritto:
>
> Hi Maxi,
>
> my mail was only technical and I also noticed it when I wrote it
> that I
> did not say anything about the case.
>
> Sara wrote : "...so I'm revisiting this request: please change my
> Charter membership status to "retired". ... cc'd board at lists to
> help
> facilitate the request."
>
> And this was the only thing I focussed on with my answer. It was
> not my
> intention to be insensitive or ignorant.
>
> Sure we - board - still should discuss the case. It is topic for the
> next board meeting.
>
> Regards,
>
> Astrid
>
>
>
>
> Am 07.12.2018 09:26 schrieb Massimiliano Cannata:
> > Dear Astrid,
> > I think that this request of withdraw together with the public
> accuses
> > it expresses cannot be simply resolved with a wiki page
> modification.
> >
> > This call the OSGeo code of conduct committee and the board in its
> > highest function of guarantor of the community to address the
> accuses
> > and take public position with an official communication.
> >
> > Whether the accuses are true or not I believe this situation is
> > negatively impacting our community brand and trust.
> >
> > This fact cannot pass over silence anymore and therefore I publicly
> > call the board to urgently express and take a position on this.
> >
> > Let's see if this mail worth a response...
> >
> > Regards
> > Maxi
> >
> > Il giorno ven 7 dic 2018, 07:56 Astrid Emde (OSGeo)
> > <astrid_emde at osgeo.org <mailto:astrid_emde at osgeo.org>> ha scritto:
> >
> >> Hello Sara,
> >>
> >> thanls for your email and sorry, that it took a while to work on
> >> your
> >> request.
> >>
> >> You are now listed as retired OSGeo Charter Member at
> >>
> >> https://www.osgeo.org/about/charter-members/ [1]
> >>
> >> I also edited your User page in the wiki and deleted Charter
> >> member:
> >>
> >> https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Sarasafavi [2]
> >>
> >> If you would like to change more content on your charter member
> >> page you
> >> can do so.
> >>
> >> All the best Astrid
> >>
> >> ---
> >>
> >> -------------------------------------------------------------
> >> Astrid Emde
> >> OSGeo Board Member and OSGeo Secretary
> >> Open Source Geospatial Foundation
> >> https://www.osgeo.org/member/astrid-emde/ [3]
> >> astrid_emde at osgeo.org <mailto:astrid_emde at osgeo.org>
> >>
> >> Am 04.12.2018 16:54 schrieb Sara:
> >>> Board elections have come & gone and so I'm revisiting this
> >> request:
> >>> please change my Charter membership status to "retired".
> >>>
> >>> Astrid - I've been told you have the ability to modify any
> >> relevant
> >>> "master lists". If this isn't true please feel free to forward
> >> this to
> >>> the right person.
> >>>
> >>> Vicky - similarly, I understand you have the ability to edit the
> >> web
> >>> content at www.osgeo.org/about/charter-members/
> <http://www.osgeo.org/about/charter-members/> [4] [1]. If
> >> that's not
> >>> correct either, please feel free to forward as needed.
> >>>
> >>> cc'd board at lists to help facilitate the request.
> >>>
> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> >>> From: SARA <sara at sarasafavi.com <mailto:sara at sarasafavi.com>>
> >>> Date: Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 12:00 PM
> >>> Subject: How to retire membership status?
> >>> To: OSGeo Discussions <discuss at lists.osgeo.org
> <mailto:discuss at lists.osgeo.org>>
> >>>
> >>> Hello community,
> >>>
> >>> Can someone point me at the relevant documentation re: retiring
> >>> current membership status? Specifically, related to Charter
> >>> membership.
> >>>
> >>> I understand the processes to nominate & add new charter members
> >> but
> >>> not clear on how current charter members can retire.
> >>>
> >>> To put it another way: how to edit
> >>> https://www.osgeo.org/about/charter-members/ [1] [2]?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Sara Safavi
> >>>
> >>> Links:
> >>> ------
> >>> [1] http://www.osgeo.org/about/charter-members/ [4]
> >>> [2] https://www.osgeo.org/about/charter-members/ [1]
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> >> https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/board [5]
> >
> >
> > Links:
> > ------
> > [1] https://www.osgeo.org/about/charter-members/
> > [2] https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Sarasafavi
> > [3] https://www.osgeo.org/member/astrid-emde/
> > [4] http://www.osgeo.org/about/charter-members/
> > [5] https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/board
>
>
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