From even.rouault at spatialys.com Sun Jun 21 05:14:09 2026 From: even.rouault at spatialys.com (Even Rouault) Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2026 14:14:09 +0200 Subject: [Board] Concerning LLM slope happening on PostGIS Message-ID: <3eb51aa5-ea9f-4301-8f7d-19e49292531d@spatialys.com> Hi board, In case you haven't seen it, it seems the PostGIS project has embraced LLM tools at an industrial (= inhuman) scale. Very concerning discussion thread at https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/postgis-devel/2026-June/thread.html#30773 , and in the last few days a rage of opened (and merged) pull requests. See my message at https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/postgis-devel/2026-June/030844.html LLMs are destroying our communities: not an opinion, just a fact. Even -- http://www.spatialys.com My software is free, but my time generally not. LLMs contribute to global warming From jeroen.ticheler at geocat.com Wed Jun 24 13:44:14 2026 From: jeroen.ticheler at geocat.com (Jeroen Ticheler) Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2026 22:44:14 +0200 Subject: [Board] Concerning LLM slope happening on PostGIS In-Reply-To: <3eb51aa5-ea9f-4301-8f7d-19e49292531d@spatialys.com> References: <3eb51aa5-ea9f-4301-8f7d-19e49292531d@spatialys.com> Message-ID: <2B1FBE86-90D5-4393-9E26-F289CDD68DBF@geocat.com> Dear Even, Thank you for taking time to contact us on the topic of using AI in OSGeo projects. This topic has our full attention and we want you to know we take your concerns very serious. As a board, and as a foundation, we will not take a position in wether or not a project adopts or bans AI generated contributions to a project. That is for the PSC and community to decide. We plan to run a Bird of a Feather session at both FOSS4G Europe and FOSS4G 2026 Hiroshima to have a direct conversation on the topic. We do feel strongly that (Agentic) AI should not be considered as subject to the Code of Conduct of OSGeo or any of its projects. We are a community of human beings that use computer systems, but always under human responsibility and supervision. We do also wish to offer a listening ear and organise meetings to jointly work towards sustained and positive collaboration within OSGeo project communities if those involved in the debate feel that is something to pursue. Looking forward to hear from you if you are open to this. Kind regards, Jeroen > On 21 Jun 2026, at 14:14, Even Rouault via Board wrote: > > Hi board, > > In case you haven't seen it, it seems the PostGIS project has embraced LLM tools at an industrial (= inhuman) scale. Very concerning discussion thread at https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/postgis-devel/2026-June/thread.html#30773 , and in the last few days a rage of opened (and merged) pull requests. See my message at https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/postgis-devel/2026-June/030844.html > > LLMs are destroying our communities: not an opinion, just a fact. > > Even > > -- > http://www.spatialys.com > My software is free, but my time generally not. > LLMs contribute to global warming > > _______________________________________________ > Board mailing list > Board at lists.osgeo.org > https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/board Jeroen Jeroen Ticheler Director (+31)?318416664 (+31)?681286572 jeroen.ticheler at geocat.com www.geocat.com GeoCat bv Generaal Foulkesweg 72 6703BW Wageningen The Netherlands Supporter of -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From even.rouault at spatialys.com Wed Jun 24 16:02:05 2026 From: even.rouault at spatialys.com (Even Rouault) Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2026 01:02:05 +0200 Subject: [Board] Concerning LLM slope happening on PostGIS In-Reply-To: <2B1FBE86-90D5-4393-9E26-F289CDD68DBF@geocat.com> References: <3eb51aa5-ea9f-4301-8f7d-19e49292531d@spatialys.com> <2B1FBE86-90D5-4393-9E26-F289CDD68DBF@geocat.com> Message-ID: <13f36da6-74c2-42ee-a39f-9e06ab1ce3ce@spatialys.com> Jeroen, thanks for your answer and your remainder of the fundamentally human-centered nature of our community. I fully support discussions in the community to debate on how to address this brutal incursion of this new technology? that deserves extreme care into?our projects (and far beyond...) Kind regards, Even Le 24/06/2026 ? 22:44, Jeroen Ticheler a ?crit?: > Dear Even, > > Thank you for taking time to contact us on the topic of using AI in > OSGeo projects. This topic has our full attention and we want you to > know we take your concerns very serious. > > As a board, and as a foundation, we will not take a position in wether > or not a project adopts or bans AI generated contributions to a > project. That is for the PSC and community to decide. > > We plan to run a Bird of a Feather session at both FOSS4G Europe and > FOSS4G 2026 Hiroshima to have a direct conversation on the topic. > > We do feel strongly that (Agentic) AI should not be considered as > subject to the Code of Conduct of OSGeo or any of its projects. We are > a community of human beings that use computer systems, but always > under human responsibility and supervision. > > We do also wish to offer a listening ear and organise meetings to > jointly work towards sustained and positive collaboration within OSGeo > project communities if those involved in the debate feel that is > something to pursue. > > Looking forward to hear from you if you are open to this. > > Kind regards, > > Jeroen > >> On 21 Jun 2026, at 14:14, Even Rouault via Board >> wrote: >> >> Hi board, >> >> In case you haven't seen it, it seems the PostGIS project has >> embraced LLM tools at an industrial (= inhuman) scale. Very >> concerning discussion thread at >> https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/postgis-devel/2026-June/thread.html#30773 >> , and in the last few days a rage of opened (and merged) pull >> requests. See my message at >> https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/postgis-devel/2026-June/030844.html >> >> LLMs are destroying our communities: not an opinion, just a fact. >> >> Even >> >> -- >> http://www.spatialys.com >> My software is free, but my time generally not. >> LLMs contribute to global warming >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Board mailing list >> Board at lists.osgeo.org >> https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/board > > Jeroen > > Jeroen Ticheler > Director > Phone (+31)?318416664 > > > Mobile (+31)?681286572 > > Email jeroen.ticheler at geocat.com > > > Website www.geocat.com > > Address GeoCat bv > Generaal Foulkesweg 72 > 6703BW Wageningen > The Netherlands > > > > > linkedin bluesky > mastodon > instagram > > > banner > Supporter?of > > badgecustom_ejY0i3yX6AvygQk9 > > badgecustom_Dow6r7BByUl9iW8x > badgecustom_aAZoKyLnBPnuZ9XR > > > > > > > -- http://www.spatialys.com My software is free, but my time generally not. 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Note 1: Attached to your university or at a more generalized level, like country wise or language wise which would include many countries. Once you have your group up and functioning: *Add wiki page* You can add your group to - https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Interest_Groups You will need to create the wiki page about your group also. *Discourse channel* Currently we have the Mexico channel that you can use to communicate https://discourse.osgeo.org/c/geoinquietos/mexico/20 To be able to post on the channel you need to register here: https://discourse.osgeo.org/g/mexico You might also want to join https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/geoforall-iberoamerica/ Which is a group that is more on the focus of education They create a monthly newsletter. Start a conversation there (Spanish OK). You can read more about local chapters here - https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Local_Chapters There are groups (not even mentioned on the wiki) on telegram: GeoChicas, (Annual even in Mexico this year celebrating 10 years of GeoChicas) Comunidad Brazil QGIS latam That you can join to promote the "students group". If you are interested let me know (reply only to me) so I can give you the telegram handle. Hope this is helpful. Regards and good luck with your group! Vicky Vergara OSGeo Vice-President South America and Asia https://www.osgeo.org/about/board/ This is the response from the mail received in info mailbox from Itzel Alcantara Copy/pasted down bellow. *Dear OSGeo Education Committee,* I am writing to express our enthusiastic interest in establishing an OSGeo Student Chapter at the Universidad Aut?noma del Estado de M?xico (UAEMex). We are a dedicated group of undergraduate Geography students who actively utilize open-source geospatial technologies,including QGIS and spatial data analysis in R,for cartographic modeling, environmental analysis, and remote sensing. We strongly believe in the principles of open science and open data. Establishing an official OSGeo chapter would allow us to foster a collaborative environment on campus, contribute to open-source projects, and connect with the global geospatial community. Could you please provide us with the necessary details and guidelines to formally charter a student chapter at our university? We would specifically appreciate information on the following: - The minimum number of students required to form a recognized chapter. - The expectations and responsibilities of a faculty advisor. - The official documentation, forms, or Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) needed for the application. - Any specific activities or annual reports expected from active student chapters. Thank you very much for your time and guidance. We are eager to promote open-source geospatial software within our academic community and look forward to your response. Sincerely, *Itzel Evelyn Alc?ntara Rivas * -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: