<div dir="ltr">Yep, this is a case of wait and then hurry up. I would like to take a moment with Mike Smith to adjust sponsorship levels (to encourage greater participation) before sending out invoices.<div><br></div><div>Jody</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div>--</div><div>Jody Garnett</div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On 16 October 2015 at 07:14, Michael Smith <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:michael.smith.erdc@gmail.com" target="_blank">michael.smith.erdc@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I can certainly provide either you or Jody invoicing abilities (via<br>
quickbooks) (or both).<br>
<br>
I'm very pleased that Jody has offered to work on this and I can certainly<br>
work on this together with Jody (or you but I think you have too much on<br>
your plate already).<br>
<br>
Mike<br>
<br>
On 10/16/15, 10:03 AM, "Board on behalf of Jeff McKenna"<br>
<<a href="mailto:board-bounces@lists.osgeo.org">board-bounces@lists.osgeo.org</a> on behalf of <a href="mailto:jmckenna@gatewaygeomatics.com">jmckenna@gatewaygeomatics.com</a>><br>
wrote:<br>
<div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><br>
>Hi Daniel,<br>
><br>
>The board did have a good discussion on this yesterday. It is indeed<br>
>unfortunate that OSGeo sponsors haven't been invoiced since 2012, but I<br>
>feel it is good to be open with this now and keep an uptodate record of<br>
>this on the public page (note that if you check the logs of the meeting<br>
>this wasn't my idea at all, however I do agree with it). I can commit<br>
>my time to working with past sponsors as well as building new<br>
>relationships, and it is really great that Jody is championing this.<br>
>Can I and/or Jody be given powers to invoice? I would like to start<br>
>this today, no sense in waiting any more, especially as 2016 is<br>
>approaching.<br>
><br>
>-jeff<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
>On 2015-10-16 10:23 AM, Daniel Morissette wrote:<br>
>> Hi Board,<br>
>><br>
>> I was surprised to read this morning that all sponsors had been removed<br>
>> right away with no effort to contact them. After all this has been on<br>
>> hold for about a year (since the IRS saga resolution), so there was no<br>
>> urgency to remove anyone from the website right away. It is our (OSGeo)<br>
>> problem if they were not invoiced, none of them are in fault for not<br>
>> paying their sponsorship invoice since they didn't receive one.<br>
>><br>
>> I think it would have been polite to contact each sponsor and give them<br>
>> a few weeks to confirm their intention to stay or not before removing<br>
>> them from the page. My personal apologies to Jeroen/GeoCat and other<br>
>> past sponsors for not addressing this situation and following up with<br>
>> invoices last fall before leaving the treasurer seat.<br>
>><br>
>> How about putting them all back online for now and removing only those<br>
>> who fail to confirm their intention to renew their sponsorship after a<br>
>> reasonable (few weeks) notice? Those who have already expressed their<br>
>> intention to NOT renew (I'm aware of at least one) should be removed<br>
>> right away of course.<br>
>><br>
>> With respect to the situation of sponsors billing vs IRS, etc, the "free<br>
>> ride" mentioned in this thread was only discussed offlist as a potential<br>
>> solution and never formally approved, but the overall situation was<br>
>> mentioned publicly in my treasurer report last year at the AGM and on<br>
>> the mailing list here, so this is not news and the whole community was<br>
>> aware of it:<br>
>><br>
>> <a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/board/2014-September/012066.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/board/2014-September/012066.html</a><br>
>><br>
>> """<br>
>> Short term actions:<br>
>> -------------------<br>
>><br>
>> ...<br>
>><br>
>> - Invoice sponsors for 2013-14. We have not invoiced sponsors while we<br>
>> were waiting on resolution of our non-profit status from IRS since it<br>
>> was not clear at the time if their contribution would be taxable, so I<br>
>> preferred to wait. Now that the non-profit status is confirmed it's time<br>
>> to get back on track with our sponsors.<br>
>> """<br>
>><br>
>> All that being said, thanks a lot to the new board for grabbing the ball<br>
>> and addressing the sponsors situation, something that I/we should have<br>
>> done a year ago after the IRS situation got resolved.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Daniel<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On 2015-10-16 8:47 AM, Jeff McKenna wrote:<br>
>>> Hi Jeroen,<br>
>>><br>
>>> As Jody mentioned, I am sorry for this confusion. I will try to<br>
>>> summarize the situation here, and OSGeo treasurers can correct me, but<br>
>>>I<br>
>>> think it is important that we speak of this openly (I don't think this<br>
>>> has ever been publicly spoken of, since I've been on the board since<br>
>>> 2009).<br>
>>><br>
>>> I believe OSGeo's long battle to resolve the non-profit tax status<br>
>>> (thank you Tyler and Daniel for resolving) affected our invoicing of<br>
>>> sponsors in 2013. We are now of course 501(c)(4) exempt, but that came<br>
>>> in late 2013, and even then I remember there were some complications<br>
>>>and<br>
>>> further steps needed to clear up.<br>
>>><br>
>>> It was then decided that existing sponsors would not be invoiced for<br>
>>> 2013 to 2014 (a "free ride" so to speak). The same I believe happened<br>
>>> for 2014 (no new invoices were sent out to existing sponsors).<br>
>>><br>
>>> So as far as I am aware, that brings us to 2015-2016.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Yesterday during the OSGeo Board meeting, sponsors were discussed<br>
>>> (search for "sponsor" text in the logs at<br>
>>> <a href="http://irclogs.geoapt.com/osgeo/%23osgeo.2015-10-15.log" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://irclogs.geoapt.com/osgeo/%23osgeo.2015-10-15.log</a>) and the OSGeo<br>
>>> board decided to update the sponsors page listing the current sponsor<br>
>>> thinkWhere, and then list all past sponsors below that. Then, late<br>
>>>last<br>
>>> night I updated the sponsors page as we agreed in that meeting.<br>
>>><br>
>>> I believe we/OSGeo must now contact all past sponsors and possibly<br>
>>> invoice. Thankfully Jody is interested in championing this and will<br>
>>> work with the current OSGeo treasurer Mike Smith.<br>
>>><br>
>>> I hope this clarifies what has been happening through the years, and I<br>
>>> am sure others will speak up now and correct me where I made improper<br>
>>> assumptions, but it is good to speak about this publicly, and improve<br>
>>>on<br>
>>> it for 2015-2016.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Jeroen I too don't like not seeing the GeoCat logo there. Maybe we can<br>
>>> fast-track all this and you can phone me today and we can work through<br>
>>> this together?<br>
>>><br>
>>> -jeff<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> On 2015-10-16 2:55 AM, Jeroen Ticheler wrote:<br>
>>>> Hi Jeff,<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> I'm confused... GeoCat has always been a sponsor and to the best of my<br>
>>>> knowledge still is. If this is not the case according to OSGeo it is<br>
>>>> because no recurring invoice was send to us. We may not be the only<br>
>>>> sponsor dropping off the list if this is the case. Can you put GeoCat<br>
>>>> back on instead of on a list of previous sponsors? We've been sponsor<br>
>>>> since GeoCat was founded in 2007 and will likely continue to do so in<br>
>>>> the future.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> It would be nice to see a new plan where company size is taken into<br>
>>>> account indeed.<br>
>>>> Thanks,<br>
>>>> Jeroen<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> GeoCat Bridge for ArcGIS allows instant publishing of data and<br>
>>>> metadata on GeoServer, MapServer, PostGIS and GeoNetwork. Visit<br>
>>>> <a href="http://geocat.net" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://geocat.net</a> for details.<br>
>>>> _________________________<br>
>>>> Jeroen Ticheler<br>
>>>> GeoCat bv<br>
>>>> Veenderweg 13<br>
>>>> 6721 WD Bennekom<br>
>>>> Tel: <a href="tel:%2B31%20%280%296%2081286572" value="+31681286572">+31 (0)6 81286572</a><br>
>>>> <a href="http://geocat.net" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://geocat.net</a><br>
>>>><br>
>>>>> Op 16 okt. 2015 om 01:43 heeft Jeff McKenna<br>
>>>>> <<a href="mailto:jmckenna@gatewaygeomatics.com">jmckenna@gatewaygeomatics.com</a>> het volgende geschreven:<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Hi Board, all,<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> As discussed in today's Board meeting, I've updated the Sponsors page<br>
>>>>> to list our current sponsor (thinkWhere) and list all of the previous<br>
>>>>> sponsors: <a href="http://www.osgeo.org/content/sponsorship/sponsors.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.osgeo.org/content/sponsorship/sponsors.html</a><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> This would have to be verified by the Treasurer. I tried very hard<br>
>>>>> to list all past OSGeo sponsors, I went through many old documents,<br>
>>>>> as far back as 2006. Please let me know if I made any mistakes.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> I'd like to thank Alan Moore of thinkWhere<br>
>>>>> (<a href="http://www.thinkwhere.com/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.thinkwhere.com/</a>) for their current sponsorship, and each<br>
>>>>> and every past sponsor of OSGeo:<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> 1Spatial<br>
>>>>> 2ndQuadrant<br>
>>>>> ASTUN Technology<br>
>>>>> Autodesk<br>
>>>>> Boreal-Information Strategies (Borealis)<br>
>>>>> Camptocamp<br>
>>>>> First Base Solutions Inc.<br>
>>>>> GeoCat<br>
>>>>> INGRES<br>
>>>>> Institut Geographique National (IGN) France<br>
>>>>> Instituto Nacional de Pesquisas Espaciais (INPE) Brazil<br>
>>>>> Karttakeskus<br>
>>>>> LizardTech, A Celartem Company<br>
>>>>> Metaspatial<br>
>>>>> Ordnance Survey<br>
>>>>> PCI Geomatics<br>
>>>>> WhereGroup<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> -jeff<br>
>>>>><br>
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