<div dir="ltr"><div>Your point on responsibility for ongoing content is well taken; and something for the larger OSGeo community to consider. While the marketing committee is focused on user outreach content each year; each group has their own content to manage (for example the OSGeo board has press releases).<br></div><div><br></div>Note that even in cases where committees "need to ask if someone would like to get paid for it" ... a volunteer to set up those contracts and manage the resulting relationship. You can look to SAC as a committee that is experiment (successfully) with this approach.<div><br><div class="gmail_extra">I am personally hesitant to pay members of our community to work for fear of setting up a strained relationship. OSGeo does have some prior experience hiring an employee; when we had more funds. Hiring (even a part time employee or contractor) needs to be done very carefully and have a clear contract. We do not want to put them in a position of reporting to (or being asked to meet) the wide range of expectations we have here online. <i>I know even for the very brief work the geoserver-devel team set up (migrating from codehaus) the goal posts changed midway through the project. I wish we had negotiated better to better share the technical risk and manage community expectations.</i></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">We are wandering a bit away from the topic at hand, which is to ask committees to get their budget requests in so the board can plan 2017. If anyone is passionate about marketing please join the marketing committee; if anyone would like to help with the 2017 budget there is a committee set up to help Micheal Smith (our treasurer).</div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div>--</div><div>Jody Garnett</div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On 15 December 2016 at 19:23, Daniel Kastl <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:daniel@georepublic.de" target="_blank">daniel@georepublic.de</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><span class="gmail-">On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 12:19 AM, Jody Garnett <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jody.garnett@gmail.com" target="_blank">jody.garnett@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>think we have a cart before horse here - I would not expect a breakdown of costs until there are quotes to work against?</div><div><br></div><div>To arrive at this number in the <a href="https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Marketing_Meeting_2016-11-25" target="_blank">last marketing</a> meeting Jeff went through some examples he had negotiated for prior projects. Jeff and Marc were also comparing the price in their respective neighbourhoods for this kind of work.</div><div><br></div><div>From the notes:</div><div>- marketing plan</div><div>- branding guide</div><div>- website templates (cms, wiki, sphinx, etc...)</div><div>- help migrating the content</div><div>- collateral for exhibit packs</div><div><br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div></span><div>I fully agree with Jody's first sentence.</div><div>But I also think that an estimated budget of 70.000 USD is totally realistic ... if your neighborhood is where the board members live or people involved in this discussion.</div><div><br></div><div>The point is, that 150 USD is maybe the hourly wage for a developer in North America or Europe, but it can be an average monthly salary elsewhere.</div><div>I thought OSGeo is a global community, so why not ask local chapters to ask in their local communities, if someone or a group of people would be interested to work on this continuously and make a living out of it? Companies outsource work like website development to places, where development costs are lower, but OSGeo doesn't need to "outsource" to unknown subcontractors. We just need to ask to the communities, if someone would be interested and get paid for it. There is no reason that this needs to be done in North America or Europe.</div><div><br></div><div>I would find it bad to pay a rather large amount of money in one year (only), then maybe having not enough budget the next years to maintain the site.</div><div>There is nothing worse than a one-times investment and then let the website get outdated over years. If we start with too high costs, the maintenance costs will probably remain high as well.</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div>Daniel <span class="gmail-HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br></font></span></div></div><span class="gmail-HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div class="gmail-m_-8899740713362934972gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse">Georepublic UG & Georepublic Japan<br>eMail: <a href="mailto:daniel.kastl@georepublic.de" style="color:rgb(66,99,171)" target="_blank">daniel.kastl@<wbr>georepublic.de</a><br>Web: <a href="https://georepublic.info" target="_blank">https://georepublic.info</a></span><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div></div></div></div>
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