<div dir="ltr">Hi Scott and Athina,<div><br></div><div>We usually use this for our meetings:</div><div><a href="https://meet.jit.si/osgeo">https://meet.jit.si/osgeo</a></div><div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div>Angelos<br><div><br></div><div><br></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Aug 24, 2019 at 8:22 PM Tom Kralidis <<a href="mailto:tomkralidis@gmail.com">tomkralidis@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Time Works for us. I will send you the web conf details tomorrow. <br>
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Sent from my iPhone<br>
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> On Aug 24, 2019, at 17:54, Scott Simmons <<a href="mailto:ssimmons@ogc.org" target="_blank">ssimmons@ogc.org</a>> wrote:<br>
> <br>
> Hi Tom,<br>
> <br>
> I am not in Bucharest and am 9 hours behind you. I could dial in early my morning, but am not sure how long you plan to meet on Sunday. Is 0700 Mountain / 1600 Bucharest too late for you?<br>
> <br>
> Best Regards,<br>
> Scott<br>
> <br>
>> On Aug 24, 2019, at 6:53 AM, Tom Kralidis <<a href="mailto:tomkralidis@gmail.com" target="_blank">tomkralidis@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> <br>
>> Hi Scott: we are planning to discuss OGC relationship tomorrow<br>
>> (Sunday). Are you in Bucharest?<br>
>> If not, do you have any availability tomorrow to dial in (on Bucharest time)?<br>
>> <br>
>> Once we have a better idea of your availability we'll setup a web conf.<br>
>> <br>
>> ..Tom<br>
>> <br>
>>> On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 12:04 AM Scott Simmons <<a href="mailto:ssimmons@ogc.org" target="_blank">ssimmons@ogc.org</a>> wrote:<br>
>>> <br>
>>> Jody,<br>
>>> <br>
>>> I will see if we can support on Sunday either in person or remotely. Will you have a web conference setup for the meeting?<br>
>>> <br>
>>> Thanks,<br>
>>> Scott<br>
>>> <br>
>>> On Aug 6, 2019, at 10:31 AM, Jody Garnett <<a href="mailto:jody.garnett@gmail.com" target="_blank">jody.garnett@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>> <br>
>>> If anyone is willing to speak on behalf of OGC we can add this topic/discuss to the F2F meeting agenda: <a href="https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Meeting_2019-08-24" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Meeting_2019-08-24</a><br>
>>> <br>
>>> Indeed we can work on this even without an OGC representative, I will add the topic for Sunday. Still the invitation is open if the OGC wishes to attend or set up a meeting later during the week.<br>
>>> --<br>
>>> Jody Garnett<br>
>>> <br>
>>> <br>
>>>> On Tue, 6 Aug 2019 at 09:14, Tom Kralidis <<a href="mailto:tomkralidis@gmail.com" target="_blank">tomkralidis@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> Bruce: thanks for the info. In principle I agree and thanks for your leadership and ideas. Suggest we can dive deeper around foss4g time in Bucharest?<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> On Aug 6, 2019, at 06:11, Bruce Bannerman <<a href="mailto:bruce.bannerman.osgeo@gmail.com" target="_blank">bruce.bannerman.osgeo@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> Hi Jody,<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> (@Scott, I’d also appreciate your feedback on the issue and proposal below.)<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> In addition to my 25 March response to your request to an update on the OSGeo / OGC relationship:<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> I’ve been having a bit more of a think about this relationship.<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> In my opinion our relationship with OGC is stagnant with little happening in a coordinated manner. Our current relationship is not in the best interests of either OSGeo, or the OGC.<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> We have six OSGeo members filling Osgeo Individual OGC Membership roles, with the occasional report back to the Standards list. I'm starting to be a bit more proactive in insisting on these reports at membership renewal time.<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> We also have a few pockets of activity where OSGeo Members are working closely within OGC committees and teams to contribute to standards work. I see that a good example of this is Tom Kraldis’ efforts. I’ll let Tom speak to this work.<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> =====<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> I think that we need to go back and reboot the OSGeo/OGC relationship, commencing with some requirements analysis via the OSGeo Standards list. We need to geet a much better understanding of what our community and OGC would like from our relationship.<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> I’d like to see us initiate a much more focussed relationship with OGC that will allow us (as an OSGeo Community) more effectively help drive OGC Standards change that appears to be occurring post the OGC/W3C work on Spatial Data on the Web. There is considerable potential for open source solutions to lead the way for many standards.<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> The results of the requirements analysis **may** require us to renegotiate our OSGeo/OGC MOU to:<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> - include OGC Technical Committee Membership for OSGeo to help us be more effective in our standards collaboration;<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> - find a mechanism for open source solutions to obtain and maintain OGC Certification without our communities having to struggle to find scarce funds to do so; and<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> - address other issues that may become apparent after the requirements analysis process, e.g. finding a more effective solution for a CITE Community.<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> I’m prepared to initiate and to lead this OSGeo/OGC reboot effort.<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> However I would like an indication from the OSGeo Board that:<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> - you are happy for this effort to proceed and will launch the process when we’re ready to start;<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> - you are happy to look at the renegotiation of the OSGeo/OGC MOU if required;<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> - you are happy for me to lead the effort; and<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> - for you to define any specific parameters that you’d like the reboot effort to work within.<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> Once we have this sorted out, I’ll start work on the preparation.<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> Kind regards,<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> Bruce<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> On 26 Mar 2019, at 10:02, Tom Kralidis <<a href="mailto:tomkralidis@gmail.com" target="_blank">tomkralidis@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> Thanks Bruce. I will reach out to CITE.<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> Having said this, OGC is setting up hackathons later this year with focus on the evolving standards (read OpenAPI) so we can put efforts toward OSGeo participation. More to come.<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> ..Tom<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> On Mar 25, 2019, at 18:41, Bruce Bannerman <<a href="mailto:bruce.bannerman.osgeo@gmail.com" target="_blank">bruce.bannerman.osgeo@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> From memory, OGC tried running CITE through the OSGeo Incubation process several years ago.<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> I suspect that there were unrealistic expectations that this would result in people taking responsibility for the software project on behalf of OGC.<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> They then took CITE to another open source incubator.<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> By all means, invite the CITE team to participate. It will be beneficial for all.<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> Bruce<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> On 26 Mar 2019, at 08:38, Bob Basques <<a href="mailto:bbasques@sharedgeo.org" target="_blank">bbasques@sharedgeo.org</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> All,<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> Wouldn't/couldn't this amount to just inviting the CITE team? Or is it more than that?<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> bobb<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>>> On Mon, Mar 25, 2019, 4:52 PM Jody Garnett <<a href="mailto:jody.garnett@gmail.com" target="_blank">jody.garnett@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>>> <br>
>>>>> I am sure it can, perhaps we can chat in next months OSGeo meeting?<br>
>>>>> <br>
>>>>> There is an upcoming OSGeo code sprint in May and it would be nice if CITE Team engine could attend.<br>
>>>>> <br>
>>>>> Enjoy the outback!<br>
>>>>> --<br>
>>>>> Jody Garnett<br>
>>>>> <br>
>>>>> <br>
>>>>>> On Mon, 25 Mar 2019 at 14:46, Bruce Bannerman <<a href="mailto:bruce.bannerman.osgeo@gmail.com" target="_blank">bruce.bannerman.osgeo@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>>>> <br>
>>>>>> Hi Tom, Jody,<br>
>>>>>> <br>
>>>>>> I’m currently travelling in Outback Australia with very limited Internet access.<br>
>>>>>> <br>
>>>>>> Can this wait for two weeks, until I’m back.<br>
>>>>>> <br>
>>>>>> The bottom line is that we can do a lot to improve our OGC/OSGeo relationship. However this will take a dedicated effort at community building. I’ve just started this process.<br>
>>>>>> <br>
>>>>>> Kind regards,<br>
>>>>>> <br>
>>>>>> Bruce<br>
>>>>>> <br>
>>>>>> On 26 Mar 2019, at 04:50, Jody Garnett <<a href="mailto:jody.garnett@gmail.com" target="_blank">jody.garnett@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>>>> <br>
>>>>>> I have updated the OGC partnership page:<br>
>>>>>> <br>
>>>>>> - Bruce was is your OSGeo ID?<br>
>>>>>> - Vicky I could not figure out how to add more than one OSGeo contact point, is this something we can change?<br>
>>>>>> --<br>
>>>>>> Jody Garnett<br>
>>>>>> <br>
>>>>>> <br>
>>>>>>> On Mon, 25 Mar 2019 at 10:05, Tom Kralidis <<a href="mailto:tom.kralidis@gmail.com" target="_blank">tom.kralidis@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>>>>> <br>
>>>>>>> Hi Bruce and Jeff: at our OSGeo Board meeting today [1] our<br>
>>>>>>> partnership with OGC came<br>
>>>>>>> up in a few areas:<br>
>>>>>>> <br>
>>>>>>> - invite CITE project to OSGeo Code Sprint<br>
>>>>>>> - provide an overall update on OSGeo/OGC to the Board<br>
>>>>>>> <br>
>>>>>>> Is it possible for one or both of you to provide an update to the Board?<br>
>>>>>>> <br>
>>>>>>> Thanks<br>
>>>>>>> <br>
>>>>>>> ..Tom<br>
>>>>>>> <br>
>>>>>>> [1] <a href="https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Meeting_2019-03-25" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Meeting_2019-03-25</a><br>
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