[OSGeo-Conf] Fwd: [Board] wondering about short interest in proposals this year

[Cameron Shorter]

In addition to comments so far:

If a bidding city is not selected, it should not be taken as a refusal, 
but rather a "please rebid next year". This is what we were thinking in 
Sydney. If  we lost 2009, then Sydney would have been a strong contender 
for 2010 or 2011.

We should be developing a culture where cities expect to put in 2 or 3 
bids before winning the FOSS4G conference. It will help OSGeo create 
long term plans about moving the conference around the world.
The conference committee should be providing feedback to unsuccessful 
cities, possibly ranking the results to help the cities refine their 
rebid and know whether their region will likely be selected the 
following year. ( I'd strongly encourage Europe and Central/South 
America to consider bidding for 2010 and 2011.)

Tim Bowden wrote:
> On Tue, 2008-01-29 at 09:15 +0100, Markus Neteler wrote:
>   
>> (sorry, wrong CC slipped in earlier)
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Markus Neteler <neteler at osgeo.org>
>> Date: Jan 29, 2008 9:14 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Board] wondering about short interest in proposals this year
>> To: Paul Ramsey <pramsey at refractions.net>
>> Cc: "Michael P. Gerlek" <mpg at lizardtech.com>,
>> conference_dev-request at lists.osgeo.org, board at lists.osgeo.org, Paolo
>> Cavallini <cavallini at faunalia.it>
>>
>>
>> On Jan 28, 2008 11:34 PM, Paul Ramsey <pramsey at refractions.net> wrote:
>>     
>>> I think allowing Sydney to pre-submit their interest during the '08
>>> process had the effect of freezing out some interest.  Tyler's note
>>> about "letters of intent" is well-taken, though it might have the
>>> effect of simply reducing down to a negotiated one submission per
>>> year...
>>>       
>
> I don't think you can stop early bids (in fact, I'd encourage it).  Our
> original intention was to put in a nominal bid for '08 peppered with
> phrases like "when we re-submit for '09" to make it clear we didn't
> actually want to win in '08.  In the end we changed it to an eoi to make
> sure.  I know it sounds very mercenary, but our aim was to compete with
> any other bids in our region.  Perhaps we were being too competitive,
> but we really do want the conf here.
>
>   
>> I know that there was interest to host the event in Italy but given
>> the apparently good (ongoing) preparation of the Sydney proposal
>> folks here gave up early. So I tend to agree with Paul here about
>> the effect.
>>
>>     
>
> We considered Italy and Germany to be our two main competitors.  I was
> quite disappointed to see there was no submission from either one.
> Given our experience at getting things organised, I firmly believe it
> takes more than one year to get your bid in shape.  If we hadn't gone
> through the motions for '08, I don't believe we'd have been as ready for
> the '09 bid.  The '08 bid was a very valuable hurdle in getting us up to
> speed for '09.  I'd encourage anybody intending to to bid for '10 to get
> up to speed asap.
>
>   
>> Markus
>> __
>>     
> Regards,
> Tim
>
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