[OSGeo-Conf] Intergeo Update

Jachym Cepicky jachym.cepicky at gmail.com
Mon Sep 26 15:55:26 EDT 2011

I think, most of us do have similar point of view. But what I'm missing 
here (and it was maybe not needed until now), is the clear topic (focus) 
of FOSS4G, and possible gap (niche) for local FOSS4G events.

This year, several user communities have declared, they want to do their 
local FOSS4G-events. Beside this, there are already existing once, most 
of them with longer tradition, than the global FOSS4G (Spanish FOSS4G, 
GFOSS (it), FOSSGIS (Ger), Japan FOSS4G, ...).

 From what I know in Europe, local meetings are really more 
business-oriented, then the global FOSS4G. This also means, that OSGeo 
is getting their budget full mainly through developers (attendees of 
global FOSS4G) - which is strange to me.

So, if we, the FOSS4G Crowd, would make clear statements about the focus 
of each event ("Global FOSS4G *should* be more developer oriented", and 
for example "German FOSS4G is more business oriented"), it would help 
the attendees to choose the event they want to go to.

As Volker already noticed, one would hardly come to China for FOSS4G, if 
all developers would meet somewhere in US next year. But if we all would 
know, that China is *the* developers meeting point and anything in US is 
more about "developers meets business", than the decision would not be 
so clear.

I'm not expecting, that anybody would draw thick line between developers 
and business meetings. But clear statement about the main focus of the 
event, would help to cover the current market sources (time).

So my suggestion: "Global FOSS4G" is *the* developers meeting 
(developers meet developers). Local events are more user- and 
business-oriented (developers meet business, developers meet users). (Of 
course, not excluding local code-sprints and other events (e.g. Bolsena 
Code Sprint).


On 26.9.2011 18:03, Karel Charvat wrote:
> I don't want to build new "mailing list". I mentioned, that I see as
> necessary to exchange of information among both groups. I am only afraid,
> that users (very often from public sector) will not travel around the world.
> I am happy, that FOSS4G is open for everybody, but local meeting can attract
> more users then worldwide. I think, that this year statistic show this
> Karel
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> Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 5:52 PM
> To: Karel Charvat
> Cc: Paolo Cavallini; Seven (aka Arnulf); Organisation; conference;
> FOSSGIS at lists.osgeo.org
> Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Conf] Intergeo Update
> +1. The energy that people see @ foss4g is from derived from that mix
> of business folks seeing the new shiny (they don't have to understand
> the details) and seeing geeks getting excited about it. And geeks (at
> least me) can derive value from hearing how business people are
> actually putting the stuff to use. I would hate to an attempt to
> create an artificial cleavage in the community. It strikes me as
> "let's set up another mailing list" thinking, a non-solution to a
> non-problem.
> P.
> On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 8:43 AM, Karel Charvat<charvat at ccss.cz>  wrote:
>> I think, that it is important for both communities to meet each others,
> because for users is important to know, what is new in technologies and for
> developers I think, also feedback could be useful. I agree, that is good, if
> on some meetings only developers are discussing together but I think to sit
> together on some meetings users and developers together could be profit for
> both communities.
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