[OSGeo-Conf] Code of Conduct in Real Case

till.adams at fossgis.de till.adams at fossgis.de
Wed Jun 24 05:37:22 PDT 2015

Hi all,

I totally agree with Jeroen in all points.

For me it looks like we've made up things more complicated and really 
mistrust our own auto-regulate-issues, that work in every 
software-project, meeting, conference, whatever....
We from FOSSGIS e.V. already ran more than 10 FOSSGIS conferences with 
several hundreds attendees each - and I can't remember on any case, 
where s.th. like "CoC" should have been adapted yet.

A clear "howto adapt" for LOC's would be really useful in my eyes.

Just regarding "our" FOSS4G2016 here in Bonn - do we need a "CoC-Chair" 
caring about all this "CoC-issues" beside all the work to be done beside 
Does anybody know that person wanting to carefully investigate every 
single slide shown on a conference before the event (also knowing that 
many of us prepare their last slides in their session?)
In case yes, please link him/her (or her/him?) over to me ;-).

I know that I am overdrawing - reagrd this just as my 2 cents,

so far, Till

Am 2015-06-24 13:01, schrieb Jeroen Ticheler:
> Dear Sanghee,
> In my opinion these are perfectly fine. But could you please remove a
> couple of other pictures picturing OSGeo developers (male dominated,
> generalizing men as nerds)?
> ;-) Joking apart, I’ve not been in favor of the CoC in the first
> place. I think it creates more unwanted side effects (like this
> request to remove art or remove single sex pictures) than that it
> prevents a person with bad intentions to refrain from them. A plan 
> for
> the LOC on how to deal with a person acting offensively makes more
> sense to me. I trust our community members are able to behave as
> sensitive and sensible people that can auto-regulate issues like this
> in the same way we collaborate in FOSS projects.
> The CoC has been established, not sure if it was adopted by the OSGeo
> board? If it was, we have to deal with it, so this discussion may be
> useful indeed. Otherwise, I vote for removing the CoC again and work
> towards a plan for LOC’s to deal with offensive behavior towards
> others.
> Cheers,
> Jeroen
>> On 24 jun. 2015, at 12:22, Sanghee Shin <shshin at gaia3d.com> wrote:
>> Dear All,
>> It’s now time to apply OSGeo CoC(Code of Conduct)[0] in real case.
>> I was asked to remove a few slides from my presentation "7 Reasons 
>> why you should come to FOSS4G 2015 Seoul”[1], which is at the main 
>> page of FOSS4G Seoul, as being possibly offensive to women. 
>> Specifically to say, slide #6 (nude female in painting) and slide #20 
>> (row of female models) are those controversial ones.
>> I refused this asking immediately because I don’t believe my 
>> presentation breach the OSGeo CoC and I don’t agree with that view.
>> However since this is not the first time asking me to remove those 
>> slides from my presentation and OSGeo now have CoC, I think we’d 
>> better discuss this issue more openly to reach conclusions.
>> I might be wrong and I’d like to hear other people’s opinion on this 
>> from all around the world. Also I expect Conference Committee’s input 
>> as well, because this is the matter of OSGeo conference.
>> I’m open to remove/amend/keep those slides after hearing other 
>> people’s opinions on this. Also I believe it’ll be a great chance for 
>> OSGeo to learn how to apply CoC in real cases.
>> *Sidenote for defending myself:
>> - Slide #6 is the part of Salvador Dali’s well known painting named 
>> “Lincoln in Dalivision”[2]
>> - Slide #20 is the picture of famous girl group, Girls’ 
>> Generation(SNSD)[3], which I believe as symbolic icon of wide spread 
>> of Korean culture(K-Culture) in/around Asia.
>> All the best,
>> Sanghee
>> [0]http://www.osgeo.org/code_of_conduct
>> [1]http://2015.foss4g.org
>> [2]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lincoln_in_Dalivision
>> [3]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Girls%27_Generation
>> ---
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>> "Toward Diversity! FOSS4G Bigbang from Seoul!"
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