[OSGeo-Conf] [OSGeo-Discuss] Code of Conduct in Real Case

Wed Jun 24 16:01:44 PDT 2015

So we have had a difficult question related to the CoC. I'm sure it 
won't be the first.

Based on feedback so far, it appears that rough consensus is that the 
suggested images don't represent a breach of (western) norms of what is 
considered acceptable.
So here is a proposed action plan:

* OSGeo put the question to a vote (probably on the OSGeo-Conf list).

* Assuming the images are considered acceptable by the list, we respond 
with:

"Thank you for raising the possibility of a CoC breach. We have 
considered your suggestion, and in this case, we have decided that we do 
not think that the intent of the CoC has been breached. If you have 
further information which you wish to raise you are welcome to do so. 
Thank for you caring and we hope to see you at future OSGeo events.
Warm regards <chair of committee>"

I suggest that we don't throw out the the CoC just because of an 
over-protective reference to it. The CoC will be very helpful if/when we 
need to deal with a serious breach.

Hi Kristin,
It is great to hear that you are working on an implementation plan. If 
you would like some help with reviewing or similar, then feel free to 
contact me.

Warm regards,
Cameron

On 25/06/2015 1:52 am, Kristin Bott wrote:
> Hi, all --
>
> Including the conference list on this, since I think it's relevant 
> (and I suspect that variations on this conversation are happening in 
> multiple corners).
>
> re: implementation plans for the CoC. A group of folks met during 
> State of the Map in NYC earlier this month to talk about what an 
> implementation plan might look like. We are currently drafting 
> language to present to the board to form a CoC committee /as well as 
> /drafting an implementation plan. Jeff, we can most certainly have 
> this done by 1 September 2015.
>
> Responding to CoC concerns is not simple -- we're trying to create a 
> structure and a process that will make this as smooth as possible for 
> all involved.
>
> If you have any questions / concerns about this, feel free to contact 
> me, off-list or otherwise.
>
> cheers -
> -kristin
>
> On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 5:03 AM, Jeff McKenna 
> <jmckenna at gatewaygeomatics.com <mailto:jmckenna at gatewaygeomatics.com>> 
> wrote:
>
>     I thank Sanghee for bringing this to the community.  I want to
>     point out
>     that having just a "Code of Conduct", words, on a website is not
>     enough,
>     there needs to be a whole structure of how to handle this. In bold
>     letters I want to state publicly: there is currently no implementation
>     plan for the OSGeo Code of Conduct.  This is not acceptable.  A
>     few good
>     volunteers have been discussing offline how to setup an implementation
>     plan, as well as possibly even a new OSGeo committee for this, great,
>     but, it is still in discussion stage.  Without some sort of plan,
>     community members are already contacting me directly with reports,
>     and I
>     have no formal way to handle these reports.  (Sanghee was nice
>     enough to
>     help me solve this together publicly, but, this obviously cannot apply
>     to all reports)
>
>     I suggest, propose, that if there is no implementation plan for
>     the Code
>     of Conduct by the 1st of September, that the Code of Conduct is
>     removed
>     from all visible OSGeo pages, and is replaced with a simple Diversity
>     statement.
>
>     I am sorry for being direct here, but, as you can see, this needs to
>     move forward, or not at all.
>
>     -jeff
>
>
>     --
>     Jeff McKenna
>     President, OSGeo
>     http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Jeff_McKenna
>
>
>
>
>     On 2015-06-24 7:22 AM, Sanghee Shin wrote:
>     > Dear All,
>     >
>     > It’s now time to apply OSGeo CoC(Code of Conduct)[0] in real case.
>     >
>     > I was asked to remove a few slides from my presentation "7
>     Reasons why you should come to FOSS4G 2015 Seoul”[1], which is at
>     the main page of FOSS4G Seoul, as being possibly offensive to
>     women. Specifically to say, slide #6 (nude female in painting) and
>     slide #20 (row of female models) are those controversial ones.
>     >
>     > I refused this asking immediately because I don’t believe my
>     presentation breach the OSGeo CoC and I don’t agree with that view.
>     >
>     > However since this is not the first time asking me to remove
>     those slides from my presentation and OSGeo now have CoC, I think
>     we’d better discuss this issue more openly to reach conclusions.
>     >
>     > I might be wrong and I’d like to hear other people’s opinion on
>     this from all around the world. Also I expect Conference
>     Committee’s input as well, because this is the matter of OSGeo
>     conference.
>     >
>     > I’m open to remove/amend/keep those slides after hearing other
>     people’s opinions on this. Also I believe it’ll be a great chance
>     for OSGeo to learn how to apply CoC in real cases.
>     >
>     > *Sidenote for defending myself:
>     > - Slide #6 is the part of Salvador Dali’s well known painting
>     named “Lincoln in Dalivision”[2]
>     > - Slide #20 is the picture of famous girl group, Girls’
>     Generation(SNSD)[3], which I believe as symbolic icon of wide
>     spread of Korean culture(K-Culture) in/around Asia.
>     >
>     > All the best,
>     >
>     > Sanghee
>     >
>     > [0]http://www.osgeo.org/code_of_conduct
>     > [1]http://2015.foss4g.org
>     > [2]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lincoln_in_Dalivision
>     > [3]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Girls%27_Generation
>     > ---
>     > Sanghee Shin, Chair of FOSS4G 2015 Seoul
>     > "Toward Diversity! FOSS4G Bigbang from Seoul!"
>     > http://2015.foss4g.org
>     > Twitter: @foss4g
>     > Facebook: FOSS4G2015
>     > email: foss4gchair at osgeo.org <mailto:foss4gchair at osgeo.org>
>     >
>     >
>     >
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