[OSGeo-Conf] Decision of Bangkok Team for proposal for FOSS4G 2018

till.adams at fossgis.de till.adams at fossgis.de
Wed Nov 2 04:16:27 PDT 2016 

Dear All,

as Peter already lined out, we have two alternatives:
a) Support the Tansania Team and help them to make a very good proposal 
(and +1, we need a proposal).
b) Kindly ask the Lima team whether they see the possibility to jump on 
the train again.

I want to comment on both alternatives:
Scenario a) involves the danger that also the situation for Tansania 
might change in the upcoming 1.5 years (you never know) and then we do 
not have any alternative left.
If we choose Scenario b), we definitely need to extend the 
proposal-phase to give them the same time and with that same conditions.

Regards, Till




Am 2016-11-02 03:44, schrieb Peter Batty:
> As others have said, I am sorry to hear this news but understand the
> situation and send my condolences to the Thailand team.
>
> We as a conference committee need to decide how to proceed now, in
> this unusual situation. If the timing had been a little different and
> the situation had arisen a couple of weeks ago, it is quite possible
> that the good proposal from Lima would have received more votes and
> have proceeded to the second stage. I think that we need to have more
> discussion first, but we may need to vote on whether we feel it is
> appropriate to ask Lima to submit a more detailed proposal, if they
> are still interested in doing this, or whether we go ahead and award
> the conference to Dar es Salaam.
>
> In either case I think it is appropriate that we still ask for a full
> proposal from Dar es Salaam, as this is an important part of the
> overall planning process for the conference, and of the due diligence
> for the conference committee to be convinced that a good plan is in
> place.
>
> What do others think about the best way to proceed?
>
> Cheers,
>     Peter.
>
> On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 7:11 PM, Sanghee Shin <shshin at gaia3d.com [28]>
> wrote:
>
>> Dear Dr. Nitin Kumar Tripathi and Bangkok team, 
>>
>> It’s too bad to hear that your team would withdraw from the
>> bidding. However I fully understand your current situation and
>> respect your decision. I really appreciate all your efforts that
>> you’d put to the race so far and expect to see another vibrant
>> activities in your country soon again. May the FOSS be with you. 
>>
>> Best regards, 
>>
>> 신상희
>> ---
>> Shin, Sanghee
>> Gaia3D, Inc. - The GeoSpatial Company
>> http://www.gaia3d.com [25] 
>>
>>> 2016. 11. 1., 오전 9:13, nitin kumar tripathi
>>> <nitingis at gmail.com [16]> 작성:
>>>
>>> Decision of Bangkok Team for Proposal in 2nd Stage
>>>
>>
> 
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> Dear Members of the OSGeo Conference Committee,
>>>
>>> We have received the outcome of voting for the first stage
>>> of candidates for hosting FOSS4G 2018. We are happy that we are
>>> among the first two out of three countries which proposed. Thanks
>>> Steven to ask us to submit proposal for the second stage.
>>>
>>> We were charged up to host a vibrant conference but the situation
>>> has changed since the submission of letter of intent and we have
>>> decided to
>>> withdraw from the race. The reasons are:
>>>
>>> a) There is a sudden change in the situation in Thailand due to
>>> the sad demise of our very popular longest serving King Rama IX in
>>> Mid October. The whole nation is mourning and it is very difficult
>>> to get support letters for government, industry and academia in
>>> Thailand.
>>> b) Government has declared 1 year of mourning and this calls for
>>> no festivity and low scale of any event.
>>> c) We need some letters of support and sponsorship to include in
>>> the proposal, which is unlikely as we can not approach any
>>> organisation in the current situation.
>>> d) Also, we feel that the Tanzania Team, which has 100,000 USD
>>> support from the World Bank, has a rock solid foundation to
>>> organise.  I think due to this fact they have also got
>>> overwhelming support of 10 members compared to our 3. It makes us
>>> feel that we are way behind in race. So we wish them best of luck.
>>>
>>> I humbly appeal to the OSGeo Conference Committee not to disclose
>>> the number of votes at *any* stage, for all future votes. The CRO
>>> should not share the voting results with anyone, not anyone on the
>>> OSGeo Conference Committee or shared in public, ever.  It
>>> discourages other teams to try their best in the Stage 2 to put up
>>> a strong proposal - the goal is to grow passion, not hinder
>>> passion. For example, in this vote, there was no need to share the
>>> fact that such a vibrant community like Lima received only 1 vote
>>> (this hurts the flame trying to burn in the Peru local community,
>>> and also the result can affect future votes as OSGeo Conference
>>> Committee members could remember such a result next time). Also
>>> potential sponsors may get some inkling and may back-out sensing
>>> the impending lack of support in the local committee for the
>>> proposal.
>>>
>>> The Bangkok Team conveys its thanks to all those who have voted
>>> for its letter of intent and promises that we will be back with a
>>> better proposal for 2021.
>>>
>>> With best wishes for FOSS4G 2018.
>>>
>>> DR. NITIN KUMAR TRIPATHI
>>>
>>> Professor and Director-Special Degree Program
>>> School of Engineering and Technology
>>>
>>> Editor-in-Chief, International Journal of Geoinformatics
>>>
>>> Asian Institute of Technology
>>> P.O. Box:4, Klong Luang, Pathumthani 12120, Thailand, Phone:
>>> +66-886021115 [17] (Mobile), +66-2-524 6392 [18] (Office)
>>> e-mail: nitingis at gmail.com [19]
>>> My Blog: 
>>> Research Pages:
>>> ResearchGate:
>>>  https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Nitin_Tripathi/?ev=hdr_xprf
>>> [20]
>>> GoogleScholar:
>>>  http://scholar.google.com/citations?hl=en&user=BQr_DiEAAAAJ [21]
>>>
>>> On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 9:00 AM, Steven Feldman
>>> <shfeldman at gmail.com [22]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thank you to all of the committee members for your stage 1
>>>> votes.
>>>>
>>>> I confirm that Dar es Salaam and Bangkok received the necessary
>>>> votes to proceed to submit a full proposal in accord with the
>>>> RfP process and timeline
>>>>
>>>> Our thanks to the Lima team for your Letter of Intent. I hope
>>>> that you will continue to build FOSS4G in South America and that
>>>> you will be back proposing FOSS4G Lima in 2021
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>>
>>>> Steven
>>>>
>>>> > On 19 Oct 2016, at 06:13, till.adams at fossgis.de [1] wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > even better!
>>>> >
>>>> > Till
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Am 2016-10-19 14:12, schrieb David Fawcett:
>>>> >> I can add that the committee had 100% good intent, but the
>>>> 16th voter
>>>> >> (me) made an error in submitting their vote yesterday. Of
>>>> course, the
>>>> >> vote shouldnt be counted, but even if it was, it wouldnt
>>>> have changed
>>>> >> the overall outcome.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> David
>>>> >>
>>>> >>> On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 3:31 AM, <till.adams at fossgis.de [2]
>>>> [5]> wrote:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Hi,
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> with that in my eyes we have two results:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Bangkok and Dar es Salaam are official candidates and will
>>>> be
>>>> >>> pleased to submit a full proposal.
>>>> >>> I yield to Steven to request this officially from both
>>>> teams.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> And we have a functioning committee, as 14 out of 16
>>>> members voted,
>>>> >>> one officially recused - thats a good signal together.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Till
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Am 2016-10-19 10:01, schrieb thomas bonfort:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>> Dear committee,
>>>> >>>> I have received a response from 15 out of 16 members, the
>>>> results
>>>> >>>> are:
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> - Bangkok: 3
>>>> >>>> - Dar es Salaam: 10
>>>> >>>> - Lima: 1
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Gavin recused himself as he is on the Dar es Salaam loc.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Best regards,
>>>> >>>> Thomas (CRO)
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Detailed voting tokens:
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Bangkok:
>>>> >>>> tlsdldksdkQk
>>>> >>>> %29f$Vwv5
>>>> >>>> no token
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Dar es Salaam:
>>>> >>>> screew
>>>> >>>> phlematic
>>>> >>>> astronaut
>>>> >>>> agriktamo
>>>> >>>> 477
>>>> >>>> E2127111
>>>> >>>> vanigs
>>>> >>>> 4571
>>>> >>>> aG7CM9ZADSGhCSyOSaJ0
>>>> >>>> 6ETI-UIL2-9WAX-XHYO
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Lima:
>>>> >>>> Turdus merula
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Voters:
>>>> >>>> CameronS
>>>> >>>> ClaudeP
>>>> >>>> DarrelF
>>>> >>>> DavidB
>>>> >>>> EliA
>>>> >>>> JachymC
>>>> >>>> MariaB
>>>> >>>> PaulR
>>>> >>>> PeterB
>>>> >>>> SangheeS
>>>> >>>> StevenF
>>>> >>>> TillA
>>>> >>>> VasileC
>>>> >>>> VenkaR
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