[OSGeo-Conf] FOSS4G MailChimp account

Fri Jan 25 12:00:43 PST 2019

The tracking is easily defeated by
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/pixelblock/ amoung other
extensions.

Ian

On Fri, 25 Jan 2019 at 19:51, Steven Feldman <shfeldman at gmail.com> wrote:

> AFAIK MailChimp tracks whether a recipient opens a mail and whether they
> click on certain call to action links in the mail. I can’t see anything
> very nefarious in that tracking but perhaps others would have a problem, in
> which case they have the option to unsubscribe and not be tracked
> ______
> Steven
>
> Unusual maps in strange places -  mappery.org
> @MapsintheWild <http://twitter.com/mapsinthewild>
>
> On 25 Jan 2019, at 19:46, Jeffrey Johnson <ortelius at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Im +1 too ... and managing the FOSS4G-NA list now ... which could not be
> handed over from Eclipse for policy reasons.
>
> I do however recall some 'complaints' on the discuss list about Mailchimp
> 'tracking' with links. Im sure if this were brought up there, someone would
> have something to say against it. Thats about par for the course though I
> guess?
>
> On Fri, Jan 25, 2019 at 11:28 AM Cameron Shorter <
> cameron.shorter at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> +1 Great idea for reasons already mentioned.
>> On 25/1/19 8:56 pm, Jachym Cepicky wrote:
>>
>> +1 to anything, what helps
>>
>> J
>>
>> čt 24. 1. 2019 v 22:22 odesílatel Amanda Taub <ataub.gis at gmail.com>
>> napsal:
>>
>>> I assist in running the Mailchimp account for Washington URISA. It is
>>> very possible to have separate email lists for different regions and for
>>> OSGeo overall. It is easy enough to setup these lists and create an opt-in
>>> page.
>>>
>>> Amanda
>>>
>>> Amanda H.S. Taub, GISP
>>> Central Washington GIS User Group  (CWGIS) Organizer
>>> Washington URISA (WAURISA) Marketing Volunteer
>>> Marketing Lead for 2019 Washington GIS Conference
>>> URISA Marketing Committee Volunteer
>>> URISA Social Media Work Group Chair
>>> FOSS4G 2020 Calgary Local Organizing Committee Member
>>> <http://www.urisa.org/index.php>
>>> <http://www.urisa.org/about-us/urisa-s-giscorps/>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 10:53 AM Msilikale Msilanga <
>>> msilikalemsilanga at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> +1
>>>>
>>>> It is a good idea especially that African community who did not have
>>>> any information regarding OSGeo before are now following up updates on
>>>> FOSS4G conferences. It is only because of that now many African community
>>>> want to participate into the FOSS4G conferences.
>>>>
>>>> I also agree with Michael Terner <ternergeo at gmail.com>
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Msilikale
>>>>
>>>> On 24 Jan 2019, at 2:49 PM, Guido Stein <guido at guidostein.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> +1 I like the ideas shared in this thread.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 12:25 PM Steven Feldman <shfeldman at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> We don’t need separate lists, it is much easier to manage all of our
>>>>> FOSS4G contacts in one list. We can tag records as we load them with a
>>>>> region and/or we can add them to groups by allowing them to select their
>>>>> preferences and tick what regions they want to receive info about.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ______
>>>>> Steven
>>>>>
>>>>> Unusual maps in strange places -  mappery.org
>>>>> @MapsintheWild <http://twitter.com/mapsinthewild>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 24 Jan 2019, at 15:58, Eli Adam <eadam at co.lincoln.or.us> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I agree this is a good idea.  I also echo Michael's comments and think
>>>>> that it is probably best to have separate lists for separate events (even
>>>>> if managed through the same MailChimp account).
>>>>>
>>>>> "tech" things that have regular bills are usually "owned" by SAC or at
>>>>> least SAC owns the paying the bill part.  We could ask SAC.  Managing the
>>>>> account seems like a conference committee duty, at least for the global
>>>>> FOSS4G.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards, Eli
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 7:14 AM michael terner <ternergeo at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think this is a great idea. Of course, it'd also be great if some
>>>>>> "best practices" and how-to materials accompanied this transition (e.g.,
>>>>>> how to create a new campaign, how to open access to individual conferences
>>>>>> [e.g., there might be two conferences using the list concurrently], etc.).
>>>>>> The only downside I see is that the list could potentially erode due to opt
>>>>>> outs emanating from regional events hitting the whole list. For instance,
>>>>>> if I'm in the USA and I start getting lots of emails for European events, I
>>>>>> may choose to opt out, and then I'd be off the global list too. Or,
>>>>>> perhaps, a best practice would be to require/strongly suggest regional
>>>>>> filtering for regional events, i.e., in my European event example, they'd
>>>>>> filter to only mail to European countries.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just some thoughts that this is not necessarily as simple as it
>>>>>> seems, and we should think about the best practices and a smooth
>>>>>> implementation. Who/what committee from OSGeo might be considered to "own"
>>>>>> this resource?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My $.02...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> MT
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 7:43 AM Steven Feldman <shfeldman at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think this is a great idea both from ensuring continuity and
>>>>>>> sustainability for future FOSS4G’s and also from a GDPR standpoint (the
>>>>>>> group of GDPR volunteers have not forgotten that we need to get OSGeo to be
>>>>>>> full GDPR compliant!!)
>>>>>>> ______
>>>>>>> Steven
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Unusual maps in strange places -  mappery.org
>>>>>>> @MapsintheWild <http://twitter.com/mapsinthewild>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 24 Jan 2019, at 09:53, Vasile Craciunescu <vasile at geo-spatial.org>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dear colleagues,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I hope my email finds you well. I will like to ask your opinion on a
>>>>>>> item that can be associated with the Conference Committee. At least since
>>>>>>> Boston, the various LOC of FOSS4G global are using MaiChimp [1] for
>>>>>>> communication with potential participants, register participants and the
>>>>>>> sponsors. The account is passed from one LOC to another without any formal
>>>>>>> agreement. There are more than 5000 contacts subscribed to this channel,
>>>>>>> all past participants at FOSS4G international or FOSS4G-NA. All agreed to
>>>>>>> be subscribed and receive communication from OSGeo/LOCs regarding FOSS4G
>>>>>>> topics. Compliance with GDPR [2] is also assured.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My question to you if is not better to have OSGeo take over this
>>>>>>> account and provide access to FOSS4G LOC's. Why I'm saying this:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1. By having no formal way of handling this there is a chance to
>>>>>>> loose the account (lists, templates, campaigns reports, etc) in case of bad
>>>>>>> communication among the LOC's.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2. The account is not a big financial burden for the LOC (approx
>>>>>>> 77$/month) but at transition time some glitches can occur. E.g. last year,
>>>>>>> Mark paid for 1-2 months from his pocket because BLOC was slow to react and
>>>>>>> replace his card in the account settings. This can be avoid if OSGeo take
>>>>>>> care of the account.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 3. The account can be also used by the important regional FOSS4G
>>>>>>> events like FOSS4G-NA and FOSS4G-Europe. There are mechanism to have
>>>>>>> separate campaigns and target the subscribes geographically.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Of course, no LOC can be forced to use MailChimp for communication
>>>>>>> purposes. Is just an idea, in the context os OSGeo budget discussion, to
>>>>>>> make things easy for the future LOCs. What do you think?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Vasile
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [1] https://mailchimp.com
>>>>>>> [2] https://eugdpr.org
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>> Vasile Crăciunescu
>>>>>>> geo-spatial.org: An elegant place for sharing geoKnowledge & geoData
>>>>>>> http://www.geo-spatial.org
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