[OSGeo-Conf] Draft RfP FOSS4G2022

adams at osgeo.org adams at osgeo.org
Wed Nov 18 08:39:34 PST 2020


Dear CC,

looks like we got stuck here somehow. Maybe we as CC should have a clear
decision first on whether we tzhink that we should have

22 as a

- "NA" year
- "EU" year
- open the call for both

before we involve the board. I wil lsend an email to the board and keep
them updated in our discussion.

Till


Am 16.11.20 um 15:15 schrieb Mark Iliffe:
> In the interest of time, happy to defer and strongly support the broader
> Conference Committee. To clarify, I too like the idea of remaining in
> cycle, but wish for the potential economic impact to be considered a bit
> more. I'd propose the co-chairs and/or Till summarises the pertinent
> points for the board's decision. Regardless of what happens, I strongly
> urge the OSGeo to discuss and note the decision for the record. 
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Mark
> 
> On Mon, 16 Nov 2020 at 06:07, Till Adams <till.adams at fossgis.de
> <mailto:till.adams at fossgis.de>> wrote:
> 
>     Hi,
> 
>     I agree with Eli. I see the point, that of course the turn for NA might
>     be long - on the other side, I know at least about one team from europe,
>     that already prepare their bid for 2022 since a year now.
> 
>     Nevertheless I like the idea of keeping our cycle, as the above might
>     also be the case for other potential bidders.
> 
>     If we discuss this or vote on that point, I would suggest to hurry up,
>     as we are already little late with our call or 2022.
> 
>     Regards, Till
> 
> 
> 
>     Am 13.11.20 um 20:32 schrieb Eli Adam:
>     > Skipping a year means that it will be longer to return to *some*
>     > region.  Sticking with the existing rotation keeps things going the
>     > same and returns the rotation back to "normal" soonest.
>     >
>     > I slightly favor keeping 22 a Europe year, 23 a NA year, and 24 an
>     > Other Regions year.  I'm open to other rotations too, particularly if
>     > someone has a good argument for it or strong feelings.  If finances
>     > require, skipping Other Regions in 24 would make the most sense but we
>     > are a long ways away from that decision.
>     >
>     > Do we want to discuss further? Vote by email?  Plan a meeting to
>     > discuss and decide?  Defer to Vasile & Msilikale as co-chairs?  Just
>     > let things continue on the same path and without having taken action
>     > otherwise, the same rotation continues?
>     >
>     > Best regards, Eli
>     >
>     > On Fri, Nov 13, 2020 at 7:08 AM Steven Feldman
>     <shfeldman at gmail.com <mailto:shfeldman at gmail.com>> wrote:
>     >> I can see benefit in making 22 a North America year, should we
>     consider opening 22 to both Europe and NA and seeing which offers
>     the best proposal?
>     >> ______
>     >> Steven
>     >>
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>     >> On 12 Nov 2020, at 19:35, Peter Batty <peter at ebatty.com
>     <mailto:peter at ebatty.com>> wrote:
>     >>
>     >> Hi all,
>     >>
>     >> I decided to email Jon Neufeld directly, just in case he wasn't
>     following the mailing list closely these days.
>     >>
>     >> He replied and thanked me for checking in with him, but said that
>     they would pass on the possibility of hosting in Calgary in 2022. He
>     said that in addition to the team drifting apart, he was concerned
>     that traditional conferences may well still be struggling in 2022.
>     >>
>     >> So anyway, we can take the Calgary option off the table. I still
>     have a slight leaning towards doing 2022 in North America, but don't
>     have overly strong opinions on it. I just wanted to make sure the
>     question had been discussed.
>     >>
>     >> Cheers,
>     >>     Peter.
>     >>
>     >> On Wed, Nov 11, 2020 at 1:55 AM Till Adams <till.adams at fossgis.de
>     <mailto:till.adams at fossgis.de>> wrote:
>     >>> Dear Peter,
>     >>>
>     >>> as far as I understood, we discussed this also during a meeting
>     we had with CC and the board some weeks ago. I think we agreed on
>     keep our cycle "as is", which means, that 2021 will be held in Europe.
>     >>>
>     >>> The Calgary team denied to re-organize the event in 2022 as they
>     feared not to keep their team together, but maybe I remember wrong.
>     >>>
>     >>> I re-put this topic also on the agenda of our board meeting we
>     will have on friday.
>     >>>
>     >>> Till
>     >>>
>     >>>
>     >>> Am 10.11.20 um 17:44 schrieb Peter Batty:
>     >>>
>     >>> Hi all, just looking back on the email threads, in the
>     conversation around the cancellation of the Calgary event, there
>     were some suggestions that the 2022 event should be held in North
>     America, so we don't go so long without having an event there, and
>     also that we should offer the right of first refusal to the Calgary
>     team, so if they wanted to run the 2022 event we could elect to
>     award it to them without a competitive RFP (probably subject to
>     submitting some updated plans for review). At the time the Calgary
>     team weren't sure if they would want to do it again, understandably
>     due to the situation, but they didn't rule it out. I don't know if I
>     missed any subsequent discussion on this front.
>     >>>
>     >>> Personally I would support first offering the Calgary team the
>     right of first refusal on the 2022 event. If they decide they don't
>     want to do it, then we need to decide whether the location for 2022
>     should be North America (which means we would go 5 years between NA
>     events, 4 years between European events) or Europe (6 years between
>     NA events, 3 years between European events).
>     >>>
>     >>> Cheers,
>     >>>     Peter.
>     >>>
>     >>> On Tue, Nov 10, 2020 at 8:20 AM Till Adams
>     <till.adams at fossgis.de <mailto:till.adams at fossgis.de>> wrote:
>     >>>> Hi Vasile,
>     >>>>
>     >>>> I added just two comments. In general I woulde also suggest to
>     have a
>     >>>> WIKI page with just the most important infos about the bidding
>     process,
>     >>>> like we had in the past [1]. This in order to keep the process
>     open and
>     >>>> transparent.
>     >>>>
>     >>>> Till
>     >>>>
>     >>>> [1] https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G_2021_Bid_Process
>     >>>>
>     >>>>
>     >>>> Am 09.11.20 um 23:31 schrieb Vasile Craciunescu:
>     >>>>> Dear CC members,
>     >>>>>
>     >>>>> It's true, these days the world is holding its breath waiting
>     for a
>     >>>>> solution to the current COVID-19 pandemic. It's also true that the
>     >>>>> present offers no certainties for the near future (the reason
>     we kept
>     >>>>> postponing this message). However, it's time to make some
>     decisions
>     >>>>> regarding FOSS4G2022. Therefore, we kindly ask your opinion on
>     the new
>     >>>>> proposed draft for the FOSS4G2022 bid. Please take a look at the
>     >>>>> document and add your comments/suggestions. The important
>     >>>>> additions/changes from the last document editions are
>     highlighted in orange.
>     >>>>>
>     >>>>>
>     https://docs.google.com/document/d/1P3OJpJeC6LrWR7lpboBEHVdR7tihsid7a6wDIZOixZA/edit?usp=sharing
>     >>>>>
>     >>>>> Warm regards,
>     >>>>>
>     >>>>> Vasile & Msilikale - with kind support from Steven.
>     >>>>> CC Co-chairs
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