<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;">I think that being a Charter Member is a privilege and a recognition from your peers of your contribution to the community. I am not sure that financial benefits should be attached to Charter Membership.<div><br></div><div>SotM finances are based on the expectation that most people attending will be ‘mappers’ who pay the lower rate, I doubt they make much money from the business tickets. </div><div><br></div><div>Currently FOSS4G is the main source of revenue for OSGeo, we should model the impact of extra discounts very carefully before deciding, whether they be for Charter Members, people from low income countries, presenters, students or any other category. Once we create the expectation of these discounts it could prove difficult to reverse.</div><div><br></div><div>My 2 pence (which is approx 3.3 cents)<br><div><div>
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<br><div><div>On 13 Aug 2014, at 16:59, Daniel Kastl <<a href="mailto:daniel@georepublic.de">daniel@georepublic.de</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">I like the model of the international SotM:<div>Get the "community ticket" when you attend as a mapper, pay for the "business ticket" when your company/university pays you to attend the conference.</div>
<div><br></div><div>The difference in the price for SotM is huge, so business tickets support the conference, and community tickets make sure that the costs/attendant are covered.</div><div><br></div><div>All you need to become a mapper is to have an OSM ID, so what's the point to pay for the business ticket?</div>
<div>Well, with the community ticket your conference badge will show only your name and OSGeo username. Only with a business ticket the company name is visible on the badge.</div><div><br></div><div>I think this is smart and for SotM it works very well and financially allows every mapper to attend the conference.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Daniel</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 5:42 PM, Jeff McKenna <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jmckenna@gatewaygeomatics.com" target="_blank">jmckenna@gatewaygeomatics.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi David, Gérald, all,<br>
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I am in support of this (if you view 'history' on the page you can see my edits). When Gérald approached me with this, I was impressed with his vision, and that he is willing to champion such a change.<br>
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Times have changed, since the foundation has formed in 2006 until now; we now have a huge strong base of Charter members located across the globe, and we really aren't leveraging them, or giving them any benefit to being a Charter Member.<br>
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To me, this is more about the first paragraph in Gérald's proposal, that FOSS4G is more about the 'meeting of the tribes', and the 'tribe' is in fact Charter Members, so let us make sure that we help the tribe to attend the main FOSS4G event.<br>
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Of course this really depends on what the OSGeo Conference Committee thinks, if they agree to this or not, or agree to some form of this, or not. And then it must be brought to the new Board likely, in September.<br>
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But I agree with Gérald, helping Charter Members attend our FOSS4G event should be a priority (and it is worth it, in my mind, in terms of any issues with any 'bottom line').<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
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On 2014-08-13 10:50 AM, David William Bitner wrote:<br>
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Gerald,<br>
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From the beginning of the foundation, one of the main tenants of<br>
membership was that the only additional benefit to Charter Membership<br>
was the ability to vote for Board Members and new Charter Members. Other<br>
than that Charter Members should (as things exist currently) not receive<br>
any other perks not available to the general membership.<br>
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I am not opposed to trying to find ways to make it easier for active<br>
OSGeo members to receive discounts to FOSS4G, but unless we really<br>
change the nature of what a Charter Member is supposed to be, I don't<br>
think this is the right avenue. One place to start that is common in<br>
almost every conference is discounts for presenters.<br>
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David<br>
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On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 8:38 AM, Fenoy Gerald <<a href="mailto:gerald.fenoy@geolabs.fr" target="_blank">gerald.fenoy@geolabs.fr</a><br></div><div class="">
<mailto:<a href="mailto:gerald.fenoy@geolabs.fr" target="_blank">gerald.fenoy@geolabs.<u></u>fr</a>>> wrote:<br>
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Dear Conference Committee,<br>
I would like to ask you to review and comment the following<br>
proposal: [1].<br>
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Waiting for your answers,<br>
Best regards,<br>
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[1] <a href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4GDiscount" target="_blank">http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/<u></u>FOSS4GDiscount</a><br>
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Gérald Fenoy<br>
<a href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/User:Djay" target="_blank">http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/<u></u>User:Djay</a><br>
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