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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=NL link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Sanghee, others, <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I think you can take this point even broader. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>After browsing through almost all the OSGeo wiki pages related to our 13 (?) committees I was surprised to see that we don't seem to have a process description of how a new committee is supposed to be established, run, linked to the board and -last but not least- disbanded.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Given the list of committees [1] I can see a distinction between at least 2, possibly 3 categories:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>1. Committees with a specific responsibility in keeping the OSGeo organisation up-and-running: conference, finance, marketing, sysadmin, website, code-of-conduct, incubation;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>2a. Committees that should act as a linking pin between OSGeo and other organisations: geo-for-all, UN, open geoscience, Inspire (proposed);<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>2b. Special interest groups: public geospatial data, SDI committee;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Since the committees are part of the official structure [1] I suppose they have -on their own domain- the freedom to act as the official OSGeo representative, without interruption of the Board<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Therefore I'd expect to have:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>a) a linking pin between each committee and the Board (through a Board member, who preferably is not the chair of the committee)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>b) a clear description of the tasks of the committees: no gap, no overlap please <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>c) a clear governance model. Not necessarily the same for each type of committee<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>[1] http://www.osgeo.org/content/foundation/committees.html<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Cheers, <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Gert-Jan<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Van:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Conference_dev [mailto:conference_dev-bounces@lists.osgeo.org] <b>Namens </b>Sanghee Shin<br><b>Verzonden:</b> vrijdag 27 mei 2016 10:10<br><b>Aan:</b> Andrea Ross<br><b>CC:</b> conference_dev@lists.osgeo.org<br><b>Onderwerp:</b> Re: [OSGeo-Conf] OSGeo Conference Committee Process<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Hello all, <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Thanks Steven and Andrea. I’ll also gladly join to draft the process soon. I will try to find a slot for this, I’m quite busy these days though. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Cheers, <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Malgun Gothic","sans-serif"'>신상희</span><br>---<br>Shin, Sanghee<br>Gaia3D, Inc. - The GeoSpatial Company<br><a href="http://www.gaia3d.com">http://www.gaia3d.com</a> <o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>2016. 5. 27., <span style='font-family:"Malgun Gothic","sans-serif"'>오전</span> 3:02, Andrea Ross <<a href="mailto:andrea.ross@eclipse.org">andrea.ross@eclipse.org</a>> <span style='font-family:"Malgun Gothic","sans-serif"'>작성</span>:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>For what it's worth, I have no formal standing at the moment, but I'd be glad to help.<br><br>Cheers!<br><br>Andrea<br><br>On 26/05/16 12:44, Steven Feldman wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>I'm away at the moment and then have a FOSS4G UK to help organise 14-16 June. If no one steps up to draft something I will do it after our uk event<br><br>Steven <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On 26 May 2016, at 01:04, Cameron Shorter <<a href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com">cameron.shorter@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Hi Sanghee,<br>You do raise valid points about being clear about conference committee process.<br>However, no one has volunteered to write such a process. Maybe you would like to do so? OSGeo is a "do ocracy".<br>Without such a process documented, I suggest that we default to OSGeo's standard voting process across committees. Questions such as adding a new member is put to the committee. The committee votes, and decision made based on those votes.<br>Based on that logic, if no one volunteers to write a process, I suggest we continue with the vote to decide if Andrea should join the conference committee.<br><br>Warm regards, Cameron<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 24/05/2016 11:19 pm, Sanghee Shin wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal>Dear Cameron and all, <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Before voting on this, I think we need to agree on the governance model of conference committee or how to run the conference committee. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Maxi expressed his wish to join the conference a couple of months ago. However there was no enough discussion whether we should accept him or not or who can be a member of conference committee. And his asking was just dropped. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Now Cameron suddenly has proposed to invite Andrea to the conference even though there was no explicit her wish to join the committee.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Actually I’m ok with inviting any person to the committee who can give fresh mind and contributions to FOSS4G conference. However I think there should at least minimum fair guidance who can be a member of the conference to reduce any other misunderstanding. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Conference Committee is very unique in OSGeo in terms of very closed membership. That’s why we need to be more transparent and fair. To somebody, conference committee can be seen as 'Benevolent Oligarchy’<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I’m writing this not because Andrea works at LocationTech but because I feel some unfairness. And there are efforts to increase the communications between OSGeo and LocationTech at the board level. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Cheers, <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Malgun Gothic","sans-serif"'>신상희</span><br>---<br>Shin, Sanghee<br>Gaia3D, Inc. - The GeoSpatial Company<br><a href="http://www.gaia3d.com/">http://www.gaia3d.com</a> <o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>2016. 5. 24., <span style='font-family:"Malgun Gothic","sans-serif"'>오후</span> 8:13, Cameron Shorter <<a href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com">cameron.shorter@gmail.com</a>> <span style='font-family:"Malgun Gothic","sans-serif"'>작성</span>:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Conference Committee,<br>I'd like to propose that we invite Andrea Ross to join the OSGeo Conference Committee.<br>+1 from me, Cameron Shorter.<br><br>My reasoning is that Andrea has a lot of experience running conferences, especially through his involvement with LocationTech, and there are synergies that could be gained by aligning OSGeo and LocationTech effectively.<br><br>I note that there have been concerns aired previously about LocationTech competing to take over OSGeo's flagship FOSS4G event. I'm of the opinion that we should be mindful of this, but we should discuss the options openly and I believe we can find a solution favourable for all. An effective way to support this conversation is to invite Andrea to be one vote among our conference committee.<br><br>Warm regards, Cameron<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 24/05/2016 6:31 am, Andrea Ross wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Dear Steven, & Everyone<br><br>I've not been invited to the conference committee, but I will be in Bonn, and I'm always glad to chat/meet.<br><br>Kind regards,<br><br>Andrea<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On May 22, 2016 3:04:03 AM EDT, Steven Feldman <a href="mailto:shfeldman@gmail.com"><shfeldman@gmail.com></a> wrote: <o:p></o:p></p><pre>Who is going to be in Bonn for FOSS4G?<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>It's an opportunity for the Conference Committee and interested people to meet face to face, we could discuss some of the topics on the 'outstanding list' <a href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Conference_Committee_2016_Priorities">http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Conference_Committee_2016_Priorities</a> and we could start preparing the call for 2018<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Anyone interested?<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Steven <o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='text-align:center'><hr size=3 width="100%" align=center></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Conference_dev mailing list<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="mailto:Conference_dev@lists.osgeo.org">Conference_dev@lists.osgeo.org</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/conference_dev">http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/conference_dev</a><o:p></o:p></pre></div><pre>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Conference_dev mailing list<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="mailto:Conference_dev@lists.osgeo.org">Conference_dev@lists.osgeo.org</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/conference_dev">http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/conference_dev</a><o:p></o:p></pre></blockquote><pre>-- <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Cameron Shorter,<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Software and Data Solutions Manager<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>LISAsoft<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Suite 112, Jones Bay Wharf,<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>26 - 32 Pirrama Rd, Pyrmont NSW 2009<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>P +61 2 9009 5000, W <a href="http://www.lisasoft.com/">www.lisasoft.com</a>, F +61 2 9009 5099<o:p></o:p></pre></div><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________ Conference_dev mailing list <a href="mailto:Conference_dev@lists.osgeo.org">Conference_dev@lists.osgeo.org</a> <a href="http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/conference_dev">http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/conference_dev</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote><pre>-- <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Cameron Shorter,<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Software and Data Solutions Manager<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>LISAsoft<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Suite 112, Jones Bay Wharf,<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>26 - 32 Pirrama Rd, Pyrmont NSW 2009<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>P +61 2 9009 5000, W <a href="http://www.lisasoft.com/">www.lisasoft.com</a>, F +61 2 9009 5099<o:p></o:p></pre></div></blockquote></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB>_______________________________________________<br>Conference_dev mailing list<br></span><a href="mailto:Conference_dev@lists.osgeo.org"><span lang=EN-GB>Conference_dev@lists.osgeo.org</span></a><span lang=EN-GB><br></span><a href="http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/conference_dev"><span lang=EN-GB>http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/conference_dev</span></a><span lang=EN-GB><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></div></body></html>